The Bible

Do you believe you can be a good Christian whilst also actively having gay sex? Serious question that I'm interested in getting Christians' answers to.

no
but you can't be a good one by actively having straight "recreational" sex, either.
you can probably be a bad one though, whatever that is

Read it with an open mind (which may be hard after reading threads like this on TSR I must say). It's beautiful.



In its original text?

Because I've tried hard, and I'm yet to find one translation into English which even makes competitive sense.

so how are we to become faithful muslims, without a copy of the sacred scrollz

Yeah, but didn't Jesus - so, God - say that they're unclean, and then someone else said they were clean (I can't remember who, but it wasn't Jesus). Interesting how Bible passages are manipulated in favour of good things like nommy food, but not in favour of less desirable things like women priests.

Do you believe you can be a good Christian whilst also actively having gay sex? Serious question that I'm interested in getting Christians' answers to.

I see. Now, why is that? What Bible passage are you using to say that?

On sunday i was at church and listening to the teaching of the bible and stuff and I have grown up in a strong christian home for many years and I have read from Matthew to timothy, the whole of genesis and Esther. To be honest it doesn't make sense to know how these were written. They were written by disciples of Jesus or most of it were according to christians. However when people write stories, don't they exaggerate and stuff.

Reading the bible has made me think otherwise, I just don't know if I can believe it or not.

Can you be a good Christian and have heterosexual sex outside of marriage? Or by being envious of something someone else has? Or for not presenting some fabric with mould to a priest?

The important thing to know is that everyone is a sinner, not matter how hard they try. Yet there is definitely something as a Christian. It's because it's not all about how you sin and what you do, it's just about Jesus and putting him first.

If someone is doing something that plays on their conscience because they fear it is a sin in the eyes of God, then it is something for them to pray to God about to help them decide on whether they need to change that action. A good Christian would happy turn to God for help and guidance on such matters.

Can you read the Bible and stay religiously neutral?

I mean, from what I have read I have found it an interesting read, from a philosophical and literary standpoint. But can you read it and be immeresed in religious idealogy and not really be influenced one way or another?

If not why not? And if so, are you undergoing some sort of voluntrary indoctrination almost? Same rules apply for any other religious text, I'm just putting into context for myself.

I'm going to read it now, from cover to cover, as an adult conscious of making my own decisions in regards to religion, and see how it affects me. I don't mean I am going to suddenly "become religious", I don't believe that you can suddenly force yourself to be religious or not.

I am not using a bible passage, believe it or not, but the faculty of type.

I should ask you, in what bible passage is homosexuality condemned (not to be confused with condemnation of actions of a homosexual nature.)
but I won't. because you won't find said passage.

and rephrase your question. are you asking me to find a bible passage that condemns hedonistic sex?

To put it simply, the old testament says one thing, the new testament says another. This isn't about how people perceive the Bible, its a simple case of reading what is written. I believe you're getting slightly confused since the female priest debate is a slightly more grey area, it just depends who you talk to - some Christians take the Bible very literally, others a lot more on how it will suit their/modern lifestyles.

Well, it says in leviticus that gay sex is an abomination. If that's not a condemnation, then I don't know what is. I'm disappointed you didn't know that, because I was going to ask you whether you also believe that trimming your beard is bad, too, or being rude to your parents is an abomination equal to having sex sex, because those things are all in Leviticus, too. It's just that Christians choose to ignore these things, because everyone likes arguing with their parents every now and then and having a clean-shaven face, but nobody likes gay sex.

So if I have gay sex and it doesn't play on my conscience and I always put Jesus first in whatever I do, I'm a good Christian?

EDIT: What if I have sex in a gay marriage?

I would say you could not read my previous post, but seeing as your response maintains coherence, I will tab it down to lack of comprehension skills.
Is gay sex a condemnation of homosexuals, or of those who engage in homosexual activity?

I'm not saying that But further to my answer, what I will say is that a 'good' Christian would have something playing on their conscious which goes against what God wishes us to do.

But it is a matter for the individual to see what the Bible tells them and think about their relationship with God in respect to that.

It is not my place, not anyone else's place, Christian or otherwise, to judge another based on their sexual preference or any other criteria. It's a decision for the individual.

However, if asked by a friend who was a Christian or wanted to be Christian to advise them on a matter of whether something was a sin in their life, then I would happily give then advice, based upon the specific situation of the individual.

OK. So, if I asked you for whether or not you think it would be a sin to marry a guy and have sex with him, what would you say?

I'd say I don't know enough about you or your situation to fully be able to comment, so would refrain from doing so. But would advise you to seek out a Christian friend of yours to ask the questions to

That's a kop out!

Come on, just admit that, based on what the Bible says, you believe it's a sin and would advise against it if I wanted to avoid sin!