This is not curvy. This is fat.

I like how people seem to think genetics have no basis on this, they do to an extent. Most people stay about the same weight year to year without thinking much about it. Our bady amazingly self regulates when we feel hungry etc. This being even a little out can cause massive fluctuations in weight. Think about it, we consume ~2500cals a day as what we need. Most people do not count calories. If you were out by even 1% that is 25cals over consumption or a quarter of a small bar of chocolate that adds up to over 9000 over consumption over a year or 3lbs of pure fat. So any minor genetic alteration/defect can cause modest weigth gain (I am not talking 20 stone overweight over here obviously). Genes have been associated with obesity. It isn't a simple case of one gene = fat gene. More an accumulations of certain versions might suggest it.

She wants to be a model but couldn't be bothered to diet or change her name to something less ghetto-fab.

yeah they do but environmental factors play a bigger role than genetics no matter which way you try and twist it. If the woman exercises regularly and ate a balanced diet she would not look like that.

To not want to improve shows many bad traits such as lacking ambition, being selfish, and complacency. How is being at your very best going to hold you back and not give you the most opportunities in life?

There is more to attraction then we know, but what we know does allow us to draw solid conclusions because what we do not understand are the causes and reasons, not the results.

Being fit has never caused problems for people, yet being fat does. Most people prefer fitter looking people which is obvious when you look at the modelling industry (not coat-hangar models) or Hollywood. But one thing we can say is that for the vast majority of people, fat is unattractive, and that 'model' in the OP is fat.

Yes if she put significant effort it. The key word being significant. People have proirities though. Their work my be more important or their family. It doesn't mean lazyness though. You looks at billionares, they don't tend to all be superfit do they? No one can call them lazy though. People have different motivation, hopes and desires. I might be nice if all women had an hour glass figure and all me had 6 packs but deciding it isn't worth the effort does not mean you are lazy in the same way I could have entered into a career that would pay more. I decided not to even attempt it because I don't like the lifestyle.

Being fit but miserable because you spend all of your free time in the gym rather than anything else is no more admarable than being miserable because you are fat because you are keeping krispy kreme in buisness. Happiness is ultimately what is important.

Before you tell me this is because I am fat my BMI is 22 so slap bang in the middle of the safe zone not that that is a sensible thing to measure thigns by. I also do sport 3 times a week, because I enjoy it. My diet is slightly crap though.

This rofl. 1 and 2 look dangerously thin in fact they both look anorexic. Even the one labeled as normal (can tell by the legs) is pretty close to joining 1 and 2. Says a lot about what's deemed "normal". 3 and 4 are actually normal where as the one defined as obese is chubby bordering on fat.

actually alot of billionaires partake in physical past times regularly and tend to be in shape. Yeah they dont have six packs and developed chest however these hardly determine whether one is healthy or not. However if they can exercise regularly then no one else has any excuse. You dont need alot of time to exercise. 90 minutes three days a week, how exactly is this too much in a 168 week?

People firsty justify their laziness and then proceed to make up bull**** excuses and assumption on those who have what they desire. Since when did working out mean that you become miserable or that you lose a social life? Last I checked every study attributed physical activity to better mental wellbeing.

I think you misunderstood my point about the gym. It wasn't, 'everyone at the gym hates it and only does it out of vanity' it was more, 'there is no point going to the gym if you hate it and would rather spent the time doing something else'

well it depends really. Because you see I will take my last 3 weeks as I have had to get up at 5 and not got home until 7pm for me to then go to a gym would mean not actually eating till about 10pm. People can be very busy with other things, particularly if involved in drama societies etc (not that I am). it is whether those 5 hours is worth more you you with pleasure elsewhere, a night out, or indeed a night in with a tub of icecream, some friends and a trashy rom com.

Yeah, it's a classic example of how the media has skewed people's views of the world!

Personally all the first few could be "normal for them. However the average person (unless at the underdeveloped teenage years) would be hard pressed to look like that without being pretty unhealthy.

yeah not everyone has to partake in physical activity, I dont even really care if people dont however I dont like it when people complain they feel they're under intense pressure to look a certain way or complain about being out of shape (as fat people tend to do) or simply deny what is fat (for instance the girl in the OP) when staying in shape is not exactly a monumental task within itself.

You did assign a whole range of characteristics to fat people which are just as likely to apply to skinny people, or average weight people for that matter. In principle I sort of agree with you in a few points (namely that as a country we need to slim down) however, I don't think you have to be an obnoxious douche about it.
Going through your posts I've noticed that you mention the 0.7 ratio a lot. Are you aware that losing weight doesn't tend to alter that ratio? Just wondering, as the way you phrased one of your posts was unclear.

What's a VC model?
EDIT: Victoria's Secret?

Everybody lives with flaws, and nobody is perfect. I would say being at one's best is recognising one's strengths and building on them.

The modelling industry is based on aesthetics, so why shouldn't they choose the prettiest people? I think the model in the OP is overweight, but still looks pretty.

This rofl. 1 and 2 look dangerously thin in fact they both look anorexic. Even the one labeled as normal (can tell by the legs) is pretty close to joining 1 and 2. Says a lot about what's deemed "normal". 3 and 4 are actually normal where as the one defined as obese is chubby bordering on fat.

How is number 5 obese (I bet her BMI doesn't class her as obese)....and as for the normal. I think she's skinny and the "curvey" one normal.

Yeah, it's a classic example of how the media has skewed people's views of the world!

Personally all the first few could be "normal for them. However the average person (unless at the underdeveloped teenage years) would be hard pressed to look like that without being pretty unhealthy.

Hm yes, I am sure you find him sexy, but does anyone else or is this yet another lie in order to warp reality into something more pleasant?

Just stop lying to yourself and realise the simple truth - fat is unattractive.

Look at every guy who is thought to be hot in Hollywood and look at who they date? I am sure you would love to be on their arms, but they clearly would not want someone fat on theirs.

What is so strange is that it can be solved so easily, but yet you still substitute in your own reality as it is easier............


Also, what happened to someone being hot and having a great personality? Oh yeah, that guy does not exist in your world as it would make you look like you were aiming so very low.