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73% Of British Would be Unhappy If Britain Became A White Minority State
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Rubbish. There's no way in hell that people can identify more with a complete foreigner from some far flung land who barely speaks English and who suscribes to a completely alien way of life than with their parents, the people spawned them, and other older members of their community. I just don't accept that at all.
Original post by LurkerintheDark
Yes. The chances are they behave in a more similar manner, and are better able to empathize with people of different ethnic origins of a similar age and a similar socio-economic status more than they are able to with people of the same ethnic origin but who are 50 years their senior.
Yes. The chances are they behave in a more similar manner, and are better able to empathize with people of different ethnic origins of a similar age and a similar socio-economic status more than they are able to with people of the same ethnic origin but who are 50 years their senior.
Rubbish. There's no way in hell that people can identify more with a complete foreigner from some far flung land who barely speaks English and who suscribes to a completely alien way of life than with their parents, the people spawned them, and other older members of their community. I just don't accept that at all.
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Most foreigners resident in the UK are able to speak English to a reasonable level. English is a highly widely spoken and international language, more so even than Arabic and far more so than Mandarin. It is almost a given that most employment in the UK requires the employee to have at least a reasonable grasp of English.
Most people tend to socialize with people of a similar age to themselves anyway. What is an example of this 'completely alien way of life'? Most people of many different ethnic origins of a similar age and socioeconomic background still tend to have common interests, be they in sport, music, academia, work etc. It's also highly likely (especially if you live in a cosmopolitan city such as London) that you will interact with a foreign-born person during study or during work.
If most people were so unable to be able to identify with and work alongside people of ethnic origins different to themselves, why do you think most corporations (especially investment banks, management consultancies, pharmaceutical companaies etc.) in London tend to have such a diverse range of ethnic origings represented amongst their employees?
Original post by effofex
Rubbish. There's no way in hell that people can identify more with a complete foreigner from some far flung land who barely speaks English and who suscribes to a completely alien way of life than with their parents, the people spawned them, and other older members of their community. I just don't accept that at all.
Rubbish. There's no way in hell that people can identify more with a complete foreigner from some far flung land who barely speaks English and who suscribes to a completely alien way of life than with their parents, the people spawned them, and other older members of their community. I just don't accept that at all.
Most foreigners resident in the UK are able to speak English to a reasonable level. English is a highly widely spoken and international language, more so even than Arabic and far more so than Mandarin. It is almost a given that most employment in the UK requires the employee to have at least a reasonable grasp of English.
Most people tend to socialize with people of a similar age to themselves anyway. What is an example of this 'completely alien way of life'? Most people of many different ethnic origins of a similar age and socioeconomic background still tend to have common interests, be they in sport, music, academia, work etc. It's also highly likely (especially if you live in a cosmopolitan city such as London) that you will interact with a foreign-born person during study or during work.
If most people were so unable to be able to identify with and work alongside people of ethnic origins different to themselves, why do you think most corporations (especially investment banks, management consultancies, pharmaceutical companaies etc.) in London tend to have such a diverse range of ethnic origings represented amongst their employees?
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Original post by Taurine_ox
I personally think it would be a bad thing if this was to happen, i would be old by then but i would feel sorry for my kids having to live in a country like that...probably to be targets of racial attacks and/or genocide (believe me this could happen if minorities eventually end up in government)
Immigration in this country is already at ridiculous levels and should of been halted long ago...were only a small island, how many people can we take?
All this says to me is that it is an extermination of white countries and europe (you don't see major immigration to Pakistan do you?)
The only places becoming mixed race are white nations..Wake up! we are being eradicated....indoctrination by television programs, music..basically everything these days...race mixing plastered all over the soaps, billboards, magazines...it is all indoctrination all subconciously telling you race mixing is acceptable and that immigration is the best thing for Britain ever.
Britain was perfectly fine prior to the 1960s, don't let the history teachers and TV tell you otherwise...we never needed immigrants..for 1000s of years we did perfectly well without.
The day this nation becomes minority white country will be a sad sad day...from an homogenous powerhouse to a third world cess pit....it insults the many soldiers who gave their lives for this country and the people they were protecting us from were let in anyway! what a waste of lives!
If you are not of this land, remember you have somewhere you can go back to...this is our land..once it's gone, it's gone forever we have nowhere to go.
Immigration in this country is already at ridiculous levels and should of been halted long ago...were only a small island, how many people can we take?
All this says to me is that it is an extermination of white countries and europe (you don't see major immigration to Pakistan do you?)
The only places becoming mixed race are white nations..Wake up! we are being eradicated....indoctrination by television programs, music..basically everything these days...race mixing plastered all over the soaps, billboards, magazines...it is all indoctrination all subconciously telling you race mixing is acceptable and that immigration is the best thing for Britain ever.
Britain was perfectly fine prior to the 1960s, don't let the history teachers and TV tell you otherwise...we never needed immigrants..for 1000s of years we did perfectly well without.
The day this nation becomes minority white country will be a sad sad day...from an homogenous powerhouse to a third world cess pit....it insults the many soldiers who gave their lives for this country and the people they were protecting us from were let in anyway! what a waste of lives!
If you are not of this land, remember you have somewhere you can go back to...this is our land..once it's gone, it's gone forever we have nowhere to go.
You do know mixed race people make up 1% of the population right? But that makes no difference to you obviously, seeing as you're so selective with what you want to believe in.
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Firstly, I'm not suggesting for one moment that I or anybody else would be unable to identify with people from other countries, and you're point about 'socio-economic' similarities holds some water, but not as much as I suspect you think it does. But I still think that bonds with the perivious genaration will always be stronger than any relationships formed with immigrant communities.
Secondly, London isn't typical of the rest of the UK; it's barely recognisable as a British city these days because the vermin at the top are determined to play their multicultural games with the rest of us. And so therefore it perhaps lacks the strong intergenarational bonds that exist throughout the rest of the country, in places like North Wales, where I write this, and surely elsewhere. I know the left have a problem understanding this, because they loath tradition (except those of foreign peoples) because it stands in the way of their plan for progressiveness, or rather regressiveness. Surprising as it may seem to these people, plenty of kids today identify very strongly with the ways of their parents, uncles and aunties etc. And to see those ways drowned by a flood of immigrants is difficult to accept.
Original post by LurkerintheDark
Most foreigners resident in the UK are able to speak English to a reasonable level. English is a highly widely spoken and international language, more so even than Arabic and far more so than Mandarin. It is almost a given that most employment in the UK requires the employee to have at least a reasonable grasp of English.
Most people tend to socialize with people of a similar age to themselves anyway. What is an example of this 'completely alien way of life'? Most people of many different ethnic origins of a similar age and socioeconomic background still tend to have common interests, be they in sport, music, academia, work etc. It's also highly likely (especially if you live in a cosmopolitan city such as London) that you will interact with a foreign-born person during study or during work.
If most people were so unable to be able to identify with and work alongside people of ethnic origins different to themselves, why do you think most corporations (especially investment banks, management consultancies, pharmaceutical companaies etc.) in London tend to have such a diverse range of ethnic origings represented amongst their employees?
Most foreigners resident in the UK are able to speak English to a reasonable level. English is a highly widely spoken and international language, more so even than Arabic and far more so than Mandarin. It is almost a given that most employment in the UK requires the employee to have at least a reasonable grasp of English.
Most people tend to socialize with people of a similar age to themselves anyway. What is an example of this 'completely alien way of life'? Most people of many different ethnic origins of a similar age and socioeconomic background still tend to have common interests, be they in sport, music, academia, work etc. It's also highly likely (especially if you live in a cosmopolitan city such as London) that you will interact with a foreign-born person during study or during work.
If most people were so unable to be able to identify with and work alongside people of ethnic origins different to themselves, why do you think most corporations (especially investment banks, management consultancies, pharmaceutical companaies etc.) in London tend to have such a diverse range of ethnic origings represented amongst their employees?
Firstly, I'm not suggesting for one moment that I or anybody else would be unable to identify with people from other countries, and you're point about 'socio-economic' similarities holds some water, but not as much as I suspect you think it does. But I still think that bonds with the perivious genaration will always be stronger than any relationships formed with immigrant communities.
Secondly, London isn't typical of the rest of the UK; it's barely recognisable as a British city these days because the vermin at the top are determined to play their multicultural games with the rest of us. And so therefore it perhaps lacks the strong intergenarational bonds that exist throughout the rest of the country, in places like North Wales, where I write this, and surely elsewhere. I know the left have a problem understanding this, because they loath tradition (except those of foreign peoples) because it stands in the way of their plan for progressiveness, or rather regressiveness. Surprising as it may seem to these people, plenty of kids today identify very strongly with the ways of their parents, uncles and aunties etc. And to see those ways drowned by a flood of immigrants is difficult to accept.
I think it will be a bad thing as the UK will lose its identity as a European nation for European people. I also think it will effect industries such as tourism I expect this to start after 2012 olympics because people outside UK probably think UK is a really white nation and so on then will disappointed with diversity in a nation such as uk then not as many people will visit.
Some left winger is probably going to call me a racist but left wingers are just sheep so it wont affect my beliefs.
Some left winger is probably going to call me a racist but left wingers are just sheep so it wont affect my beliefs.
Original post by Jackthevillain
I think it will be a bad thing as the UK will lose its identity as a European nation for European people. I also think it will effect industries such as tourism I expect this to start after 2012 olympics because people outside UK probably think UK is a really white nation and so on then will disappointed with diversity in a nation such as uk then not as many people will visit.
Some left winger is probably going to call me a racist but left wingers are just sheep so it wont affect my beliefs.
Some left winger is probably going to call me a racist but left wingers are just sheep so it wont affect my beliefs.
What is english identity? hasn't it changed since the 1950s when England wanted cheap help from the caribbean and allowed alot of west indian people into the country?
Am i to believe that pre 1950 there was a English identity? but now we are loosing it?
Mate we aint loose crap its evolving. If you want to be purist about it, you would take it back to when england was pure england and wales, scotland and ireland didn't come over the border!
Original post by Gnobe
We need a one world socialist state with no nationality NOW. 
Will you be the Great Leader?
I do not want to be a minority in my own Ancestral, indigenous Homeland. I want to live with my own ethnicity, I want to live with my own white people.
In my own personal opinion, white people are the most beautiful people in the world. We are so unique and I think it would be an absolute tragedyto watch my country turn white to brown.
Third world immigration destroys the beautiful aesthetics of white society.
In my own personal opinion, white people are the most beautiful people in the world. We are so unique and I think it would be an absolute tragedyto watch my country turn white to brown.
Third world immigration destroys the beautiful aesthetics of white society.
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I don't see anything wrong with that. Surely every people wants to conserve it's customs and culture? Kinda hard to do that if they become the minority in their own country? Nonetheless the British and their imperialist ventures have only themselves to blame for mass immigration. Cause and effect
Original post by victorovich1990
I don't see anything wrong with that. Surely every people wants to conserve it's customs and culture? Kinda hard to do that if they become the minority in their own country? Nonetheless the British and their imperialist ventures have only themselves to blame for mass immigration. Cause and effect
Absolute nonsense, Whilst I agree that imperialism is evil do not even dare imply that mass immigration is caused by our imperialist past.
Imperialism contributed far more to the third world than it ever took. We gave the world science, engineering, technology, infrastructure, economics, medicine, agricultural, methods that feed the whole of Africa.
We give billions in aid every year, military protection and assistance, along with many other forms of aid and assistance.
So don;t even point the finger at imperialism. Imperialism have improved all countries that was under our control.
Original post by CrusaderTemplar
Absolute nonsense, Whilst I agree that imperialism is evil do not even dare imply that mass immigration is caused by our imperialist past.
Imperialism contributed far more to the third world than it ever took. We gave the world science, engineering, technology, infrastructure, economics, medicine, agricultural, methods that feed the whole of Africa.
We give billions in aid every year, military protection and assistance, along with many other forms of aid and assistance.
So don;t even point the finger at imperialism. Imperialism have improved all countries that was under our control.
Imperialism contributed far more to the third world than it ever took. We gave the world science, engineering, technology, infrastructure, economics, medicine, agricultural, methods that feed the whole of Africa.
We give billions in aid every year, military protection and assistance, along with many other forms of aid and assistance.
So don;t even point the finger at imperialism. Imperialism have improved all countries that was under our control.
Then where would you have me point my finger?
Imperialism laid the foundations for the west's economic, military and cultural dominance. We've exploited this to this day and continue to do so. Aid often falls into the wrong hands, 'protection' usually equates to 'intervention'.
Sure, there were some benefits to imperialism, but as a consequence the poorer countries were, and continue to be, economically dependant on us. We left them with a legacy of political instability and inequality which is still evident.
Imperialism reaped benefits for the west which we continue to enjoy to this day: superior wealth, economic and political stability etc. at the expense of former colonies. This, coupled with a sort of 'cultural hegemony' goes a long way to explaining mass immigration.
History affects us now, it's naive to say it doesn't... have you got a more fitting explanation?
Original post by victorovich1990
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Have you been reading too many deconstructionist critical -theory postcolonial studies texts?
Original post by victorovich1990
Then where would you have me point my finger?
Imperialism laid the foundations for the west's economic, military and cultural dominance. We've exploited this to this day and continue to do so. Aid often falls into the wrong hands, 'protection' usually equates to 'intervention'.
Sure, there were some benefits to imperialism, but as a consequence the poorer countries were, and continue to be, economically dependant on us. We left them with a legacy of political instability and inequality which is still evident.
Imperialism reaped benefits for the west which we continue to enjoy to this day: superior wealth, economic and political stability etc. at the expense of former colonies. This, coupled with a sort of 'cultural hegemony' goes a long way to explaining mass immigration.
History affects us now, it's naive to say it doesn't... have you got a more fitting explanation?
Imperialism laid the foundations for the west's economic, military and cultural dominance. We've exploited this to this day and continue to do so. Aid often falls into the wrong hands, 'protection' usually equates to 'intervention'.
Sure, there were some benefits to imperialism, but as a consequence the poorer countries were, and continue to be, economically dependant on us. We left them with a legacy of political instability and inequality which is still evident.
Imperialism reaped benefits for the west which we continue to enjoy to this day: superior wealth, economic and political stability etc. at the expense of former colonies. This, coupled with a sort of 'cultural hegemony' goes a long way to explaining mass immigration.
History affects us now, it's naive to say it doesn't... have you got a more fitting explanation?
Imperialism has not adversily Affected India, Ireland, Hong Kong, New Zealand, Australia, Canada, America etc. So I doubt that Imperialism has adversly affected countries like Africa.
Africas problems are self made such as its completely unsustainable population rate.
Original post by wollenzie
Sorry but 75% would not be unhappy because if they were the far right parties would be in power rather than the pro immigration lab/lib/con
You can not equate 'not wanting to be a minority' with far right politics. Whta makes you think white people want to be a minority in their own countries ?
Original post by CrusaderTemplar
Imperialism has not adversily Affected India, Ireland, Hong Kong, New Zealand, Australia, Canada, America etc. So I doubt that Imperialism has adversly affected countries like Africa.
Africas problems are self made such as its completely unsustainable population rate.
Africas problems are self made such as its completely unsustainable population rate.
The average African population growth rate is around 2%. A few countries hit 3%, South Africa is below 0%. The African population is around 1 Billion (less than the Chinese or Indian). Africa is relatively well off in terms of resources. Are you telling me that these conditions somehow explain the widespread poverty found on the continent?
It's too easy to lie back here in England and deny the ill-effects of imperialism, we monopolized African resources, and reaped the profit, to this day we've not relinquished a lot of our economic hold over our former colonies. The question is not whether imperialism contributed to the backdrop for African poverty but to what extent.
The world economy is skewed to benefit certain countries, otherwise countries' wealth would generally be more or less proportional to their trading capacity. The conditions in Africa have contributed towards their problems, but to assume that all their ills are self inflicted is a very big step towards denial.
Original post by Time Tourist
Have you been reading too many deconstructionist critical -theory postcolonial studies texts?
Noo mate, I don't even know what that means haha, History right? Never studied it
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