The bullying argument against gay adoption...

Ahhh, OK - this is just my opinion, you can think I'm wrong, thas cool. It's not even about the bullying thing, I just think its wrong for a child to be bought up by homosexual parents. I'm sorry but thats just the way I feel...

You are a complete and utter retard. The thread is not about people having kids, it's about adoption. Come back when you are able to differentiate between the two.

Hmmm, I'll pitch in my two cents I suppose. I have the idea in my head that parenting is a training structure for life. With that in mind, I'm not sure how much same-sex parents/guardians can pass on to adopted children - bringing the argument closer to home, my dad taught me how to do the DIY stuff, my mum taught me the cooking stuff. For me, each sex is superior to the other in certain ways and I'd feel that children adopted into a same-sex parents family would be missing out on different parts of their life training.

To call it as black and white as that is perhaps unfair. But I'd go ahead and take it in a sports direction - a footballer has a coach working on his heading and another coaching working on his tackling. He's developing a balance of play in the air and on the ground. The same player then has two heading coaches or two tackling coaches - he ends up being proficient in one aspect of his game, but neglects the other.

Woah, don't cry.

Firstly, you seem to think that the only alternative to a child who doesn't get adopted by homosexual parents is living in an orphanage. You're wrong. Homosexual couples can have their own children by using a surrogate, for example, therefore creating a child as opposed to giving one a better life who otherwise may not have had the opportunity.

Also, I don't think the law is necessarily going to be changed because of my opinions so actually I'm not going to "deny these kids the chance of a better life".

As I said before, call me as homophobic as you like, I have friends that are gay, so your words dont effect me, I just categorically disagree with homosexual couples being allowed to raise children. End of.

Hmmm, I'll pitch in my two cents I suppose. I have the idea in my head that parenting is a training structure for life. With that in mind, I'm not sure how much same-sex parents/guardians can pass on to adopted children - bringing the argument closer to home, my dad taught me how to do the DIY stuff, my mum taught me the cooking stuff. For me, each sex is superior to the other in certain ways and I'd feel that children adopted into a same-sex parents family would be missing out on different parts of their life training.

To call it as black and white as that is perhaps unfair. But I'd go ahead and take it in a sports direction - a footballer has a coach working on his heading and another coaching working on his tackling. He's developing a balance of play in the air and on the ground. The same player then has two heading coaches or two tackling coaches - he ends up being proficient in one aspect of his game, but neglects the other.

Hmmm, I'll pitch in my two cents I suppose. I have the idea in my head that parenting is a training structure for life. With that in mind, I'm not sure how much same-sex parents/guardians can pass on to adopted children - bringing the argument closer to home, my dad taught me how to do the DIY stuff, my mum taught me the cooking stuff. For me, each sex is superior to the other in certain ways and I'd feel that children adopted into a same-sex parents family would be missing out on different parts of their life training.

To call it as black and white as that is perhaps unfair. But I'd go ahead and take it in a sports direction - a footballer has a coach working on his heading and another coaching working on his tackling. He's developing a balance of play in the air and on the ground. The same player then has two heading coaches or two tackling coaches - he ends up being proficient in one aspect of his game, but neglects the other.

I agree with you bogroll, but unfortunately the TSR homo's have come to neg rep us so we must call in the care police.

... I don't really understand this often-used argument. Yes, there is a possibility that a child would get bullied for having gay parents, but the list of things they could get bullied for is absolutely staggering! If bullies want to target you, they find something about you to make fun of, even if it's completely fictional.

Also, wasn't it the case not so long ago that the children of single parents and mixed race parents were susceptible to bullying? But that's not so common anymore, because we're now used to it. Why don't we do the same for LGBT parenting?

So, what I'm asking is, why do we keep submitting bullying as a reason against gay adoption exclusively?

Look, you're entitled to your opinions but you are a homophobe. Your second statement fit the definition of what the word "homophobe" means. Presuming that you are in favour of white heterosexual adoption:
If you are against mixed race adoption, you are discriminating based on race, and therefore a racist.
If you are against homosexual adoption, you are you are discriminating based on sexuality, and therefore a homophobe.

You can't change the definition of a word simply to try and make yourself feel better about your unpleasant bigoted opinions.


Honestly answer me: would you rather be raised by two loving and caring parents who happen to be both of the same sex, or would you rather grow up sleeping in an orphanage dormitory with no parents at all?

A kid from an orphanage would jump at the chance to be adopted by a homosexual couple, and would have a far happier life as a result. Who the **** are you to deny these kids the chance of a better life just because it doesn't fit into your disgusting backward and bigoted view of the world?

Woah, don't cry.

Firstly, you seem to think that the only alternative to a child who doesn't get adopted by homosexual parents is living in an orphanage. You're wrong. Homosexual couples can have their own children by using a surrogate, for example, therefore creating a child as opposed to giving one a better life who otherwise may not have had the opportunity.

Also, I don't think the law is necessarily going to be changed because of my opinions so actually I'm not going to "deny these kids the chance of a better life".

As I said before, call me as homophobic as you like, I have friends that are gay, so your words dont effect me, I just categorically disagree with homosexual couples being allowed to raise children. End of.

Woah, don't cry.

Firstly, you seem to think that the only alternative to a child who doesn't get adopted by homosexual parents is living in an orphanage. You're wrong. Homosexual couples can have their own children by using a surrogate, for example, therefore creating a child as opposed to giving one a better life who otherwise may not have had the opportunity.

Also, I don't think the law is necessarily going to be changed because of my opinions so actually I'm not going to "deny these kids the chance of a better life".

As I said before, call me as homophobic as you like, I have friends that are gay, so your words dont effect me, I just categorically disagree with homosexual couples being allowed to raise children. End of.

Do you suffer from learning difficulties? The focus of this thread is adoption. Not having a child accidentally. Please return when you have sorted this drivel out.

Jesus...

I have to say, this is probably the most rambling, incoherent and completely nonsensical reply I have ever received on TSR. You think its bigoted to propose that people have equal rights regardless of sexuality?

Btw:

Homophobia is a range of negative attitudes and feelings towards lesbian, gay, bisexual, queer, and in some cases transgender and intersex people. Definitions refer variably to antipathy, contempt, prejudice, aversion, and irrational fear.[1][2][3] Homophobia is observable in critical and hostile behavior such as discrimination[1][2].

So should people who don't prescribe to regular gender roles not be allowed to procreate?

I don't know which century you're from, but Jesus, Dad = DIY and Mum = cooking? That's ridiculous.

this is the only real argument I see as valid.

However I have 2 things to say about it:

1) The alternative is a care home, as we are talking about adoption.
2) Your points are personal and so shouldnt form part of any general rule. It assumes that each parent has specific things to teach, which can be true but only on an individual basis

This argument also equally applies for single parents, and even parents in which one parents is away from home a lot. Clearly, a young person is benefitted by having a good role model in each sex, although the gender lines you identified are a little old-fashioned. Why can't dad teach you to cook? I can cook, so I see no reason why I couldn't teach my kids to cook.

The solution is not to exclude all these parents from the adoption process altogether. The solution is for these parents to give their children sufficent access to whatever it is they are missing in their immediate family, be it a grandfather, an aunt, a close friend of the family or whatever.

As I said before, call me as homophobic as you like, I have friends that are gay, so your words dont effect me, I just categorically disagree with homosexual couples being allowed to raise children. End of.

Simple solution: license all parents - thoroughly - especially those of which who are adopting.

Only reason i'm against MOST gay adoption is the parents tend to be very sexually permiscuous and very irritating. Why not just raise a child alongside a woman and find your sexual desires elsewhere? Stop rubbing off your unnatural homoness on your adopted (stolen) child.

As for surrogate mothers - it disgusts me that anyone would do that for a child they may never see again.