However, to get into a decent job related to gaming you need a CS degree since the quality of a CS graduate is far higher than someone who has done a video game course.
I think you've missed out 90% of the conversation we were having - I was only making the point that having a 'gaming' degree won't get you into a 'gaming' job easily, whereas a CS degree would. I didn't mean to say specific jobs only allowed for one kind of degree graduate to have a chance at all.
The word 'game' is a problem to them gaining respect. Yet 'game theory', which is dubiously associated with military tactics (even though war has few rules) or chess (which has cleatly defined rules) does have respect. So why shouldn't videogames?
Lets be honest mate, almost everyone on TSR has no idea what so ever what polytechnics taught, were for or even their reputation at the time....
Your fully correct, but I cant help but feeling pointing out the truth is a losing battle...
I think you will find that there are quite a few dinosaurs posting who know exactly what polytechnics taught (and frankly I can remember before most polytechnics were polytechnics) and the various issues which led to them becoming universities.
Game related courses are not respected by employers because of the content of the degree
Do you agree that if the content was improved then there is no reason why it couldn't be as respected (purely as an arts degree) as BA English. There are many poor videogames but there are many poor books. It's a matter of examining the best in as thorough a way as possible.
It took until the turn of the 20th century for English to be a subject in its own right and it also wasn't respected to start with.
Yes I am. Do you have any suggestion as to why not to take it seriously?
I daresay if you knew about game theory, you would be drawing such a comparison. But perhaps I've misinterpretted you: are you really saying A) game theory is respected, B) both game theory and game design courses have the word 'game' in them, therefore C) game design courses should be respected? I accept this is a simplification but that's the way your post reads.
thames valley and any other universities that have entry requirements on some courses of EE.
if a student has basically failed their A'levels, there is no way they should be allowed to waste taxpayers money having even more education at a higher level. so any university that lets them do that is obviously run terribly
And on what earth have you heard of universities that give people entry to a course with EE? :LOLWUT:
My mum got a BA (hons) in Business Studies and she isn't exactly the dimmest bulb in the pack let's put it that way. Although she says it was better several years aback then it is now though.
Do you actually have a list that can be verified, because I'm getting an overriding feeling that you're pulling things out of your arse, and the fact that you're being deliberately vague about specific engineering related firms (which is what we're discussing here) also adds to this suspicion.
I wasn't talking specifically about engg firms, I was talking about engineering grads and top firms(in general, not just engg ones) that recruit at Edinburgh.
I daresay if you knew about game theory, you would be drawing such a comparison. But perhaps I've misinterpretted you: are you really saying A) game theory is respected, B) both game theory and game design courses have the word 'game' in them, therefore C) game design courses should be respected? I accept this is a simplification but that's the way your post reads.
I meant to make a 'reading between the lines' argument as such. I actually disrespect the application of game theory to 'real world scenarios' (like that ludicrous anaology in A Beautiful Mind, as if the preferences of women in a bar can be judged like a game without their reactions to the 'player' coming in to it). How can complicated war, which has no rules (apart from conventions which can be flouted) be equated with the idea of being a game (when a game has set rules)?
It makes more sense to apply game theory to just games, like board games and videogames.
Anyone who doesn't realise that university is a place where you study freemarket capitalism from the angle of your chosen subject is going to fail and struggle. University is NO place for employees. It's a place for entreprenurs. That's why university is a scam (but with all due respect). These institutions cannot exist unless people are in debt. University is an amazing place though where poor/lower working class people can work their way out of the struggle and gain the knowledge in order to lead their communities out of oppression. You gotta TAKE ADVANTAGE of every opportunity and get everything you're entitled to.
There are better universities around, but to pass a university off as total crap is just ig'nant and total snobbery.
......you have utterly missed the point of a university. University is an investment - an investment into an elitist academic system which will entitle you to a better job. It is that simple.
I'm sorry, but any uni that has EE requirements cannot, by definition, be defined as good.
I think either you need to learn what "by definition" means, or learn the definition of "good." Granted, I don't read the dictionary often, but I don't recall "good" being defined as "not having EE requirements."