Britain is overcrowded... something needs to be done about immigration...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/2967374/England-is-most-crowded-country-in-Europe.html



Have you not read the thread? Migrants don't move to the countryside, they move to the already overcrowded urban areas.





I don't know how people can contnue to claim open door immigration is a good idea. It's completely unsustainable.

It is being capped (for skilled workers outside the EU) and as for those coming in from the EU, very little can be done anyway.
But it's a slippery slope. How far is too far?

It's not a slippery slope. The UK needs to strike a greater productivity with those here, instead of simply filling workforce shortages with immigrants and nicking skilled workers (like doctors and engineers) from the third world. Countries like Australia and New Zealand manage with a skills based immigration policy, despite having considrebly more space. As you said, there is nothing we can do about EU migrants anyway. Migrants should be let in to fill genuine skills shortages from outside the EU, not because we are too lazy to train up British citizens.

You're lucky you were born here. Non EU immigrants have to pass a basic English exam


Most immigrants are actually benefiting the economy and not bringing it down. What do you then sugest we do about the majority White benefit leacher's are the majority when claiming benefits.


Well, for a start that's illegal...


How is India an "open toilet" when it's considered an emerging economy, and is generally faring quite well?



And it's the working class that are mote likely to vote BNP, as they "took their jobs" innit man



Who says that we owe them a good life? Also, it's basic human instinct to try and get a better quality of life. If a job in the UK paid £6000 and in the US it paid £60000 then you'd jump at the chance. This would unlikely be the case, but the difference is massive when it comes to third world migrants moving to first world countries.



The left wingers say that the BBC is right wing, and the right wingers say that the BBC is left wing. They can't win really.



Not to be pedantic, but British ancestry comes from the "forrin" Vikings from the Nordic countries. There are very, very few people who have had a full British history ie: no Viking in their history any where.



Tbf, that's not too bad by 2040, considering our population now has increased by more than 20% since 1950.



Why would you prefer EU immigration. Both types aren't native speakers, aren't properly "in to" the culture etc.. If the UK has/will adopt/ed the Canadian/Australian model, then that would mean that non EU immigrants would have to prove their worth to the economy



You may not like EU immigration, but it's perfectly legal for EU citizens to move within the EU freely. You could move to Germany for a better job if you wanted.



So why does it matter that you were being lectured by a Muslim child of an immigrant? Some of my lecturer's are Muslims and some are also immigrants. You know you can also get white Muslims right?



So what have non EU immigrants changed?



Every heard of a white Muslim? or a brown Christian, or a brown Hindu?



It did pretty much that post WW2. If you got rid of any one who's had links to an immigrant(including those that were born/nationalised), then the country would land itself in a depression. Deporting would also cost money, so the country's screwed itself over twice

It would then mean, they would have to ask people to come back to the UK. If people do decide to come back, it would cost the UK again in forms etc..



Another point on the British Empire. In WW2, India had the largest volunteer army in the history of the world(2.4 million) At least 800,000 of the men were Muslim. It's said that the allied forces may not have won if it wasn't for the bravery and loyalty of the Indian men. Citizenship in the UK was almost a reward for Indian citizens when they had been under British rule for so long. Britain was a democracy, but denied India the privilege until after the empire disbanded



What about when world class scientists are needed when this country is lacking in the amount of people studying a science subject at masters or PHD level? Also, what is your stance on US/AU immigration?

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My conclusion:

Immigration is starting to become a problem yes. You also get the demography scares by DM and the like. What tends to happen with third generation immigrants is that they have about two or three children. We are a three sibling family, and a cousin of mine only wants around three kids as well(I know it's anecdotal evidence, but this is happening elsewhere as well)

The people that need getting rid of is the (thought of) 1 million illegal immigrants in the UK, though this is easier said than done

At any rate, the UK should adopt the Canadian/Australian model if it hasn't already(I CBA googling at this time of night)

Slightly off topic. Just out of interest, if the BNP got into power what would they do apart from stopping immigration? A question the supporters like to ignore. I wonder why?

Why do we need any non eu immigration?

Source?

The vast majority of those with high paid, secure, skilled jobs in the UK are British-born (I imagine).
And either way, people being employed is the priority. I don't care who it is, but that's probably because I'm still in education.

So you're saying if Cameron rolls into work some day, says 'Ok, I've changed my mind about the new immigration policy, we are going to have no more skilled workers outside the EU' then there isn't going to be any outcry from various countries around the world? If we were to say, lay off 'immigrants' as you call them, would there be dissatisfaction from leaders?

What do you class as an immigrant?

Why do we need any EU immigration?
We'd be declining Americans, Canadians, Australians...all big English speaking countries.

Most of those that come from outside the EU and go through the immigration system do not whore benefits - because of the strict regulations in which they come.

Agree or Disagree... Why?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FHSqX6h1qI&feature=recentlik

O yer we should allow immigration from America, Canada, New Zealand and Australia. But i mean we dont need immigrants from Asia and Africa.

There are 60,776,238 people in 244,820,000,000 square metres.

That is, there are 3996 square metres of land per person in the UK. We are not over-crowded.

That's just a silly argument.

i. implying every area of britain is equally inhabitable
ii. implying people are stationary points fixed in a certain location
iii. implying that has anything to do with population density in major cities

also, it would be 4028 m^2.