DADT Looks Bad On Obama

I was thinking about the bill that was passed by the senate today to remove the DADT policy to openly allow gays in military.

Senator Joe Lieberman an Independant, and Susan Collins a Republican were the ones who revived this old bill. Niether are which are democrats.

Which got me thinking this doesn't look so good on Obama in all? This was his last chance to pass this bill before Republicans took control of the house next month. Why didn't he fight for it?

One of the biggest criticisms of him (from his own party) is that he doesn't fight tooth and nail for his policies enough. This would have just passed away by the way side if he had his way. This was supposed to be one of his campaign policies?

Yet it will help him because it's another campaign promise he can say is checked off the list but in reality he did nothing to fight for it. Infact he was more interested in comprising on extending Bush's tax cuts and that would have been that before the Republicans were due to get MORE power anyway next year.

So two non-democrats have helped revive this bill which IMO and has given Obama a get out of jail card. This really looks poor on his behalf and embarresing, he still has massive majorities in both house and senate for this one final time so why not use to pass through as much as you can before the GOP take charge? So much dithering it's unbelievable. This great deal has been passed but it took people outside his administration to do it for him.

IMO I think Obama is a great character and speaker, but he's not a great leader.

I agree.
They don't call him No-Drama Obama for nothing.
He avoids confrontation at all costs - even when the majority opinion is on his side.

I was thinking about the bill that was passed by the senate today to remove the DADT policy to openly allow gays in military.

Senator Joe Lieberman an Independant, and Susan Collins a Republican were the ones who revived this old bill. Niether are which are democrats.

Which got me thinking this doesn't look so good on Obama in all? This was his last chance to pass this bill before Republicans took control of the house next month. Why didn't he fight for it?

One of the biggest criticisms of him (from his own party) is that he doesn't fight tooth and nail for his policies enough. This would have just passed away by the way side if he had his way. This was supposed to be one of his campaign policies?

Yet it will help him because it's another campaign promise he can say is checked off the list but in reality he did nothing to fight for it. Infact he was more interested in comprising on extending Bush's tax cuts and that would have been that before the Republicans were due to get MORE power anyway next year.

So two non-democrats have helped revive this bill which IMO and has given Obama a get out of jail card. This really looks poor on his behalf and embarresing, he still has massive majorities in both house and senate for this one final time so why not use to pass through as much as you can before the GOP take charge? So much dithering it's unbelievable. This great deal has been passed but it took people outside his administration to do it for him.

IMO I think Obama is a great character and speaker, but he's not a great leader.

Am I not right in thinking that McCain filibustered an earlier attempt at repeal?

Am I not right in thinking that McCain filibustered an earlier attempt at repeal?

McCain's gone off the rails since he lost the election. He seems determined to destroy his reputation.

I promise you that this won't damage his reputation. I think most americans don't really care about DADT. We want the economy to turn around, we want unemployment to come down. We're in the middle of an economic crisis made worse by Obama's gross incompetence. DADT is the last thing on most people's minds when their house is being foreclosed on.

That's a bit unreasonable. Obama was just unlucky in when he was elected president.

Regardless, it is a boost for Obama. Come 2012 people will not be considering quite how hard he pushed for it but that it occurred on his watch - the same is true for many things, good or ill.

I think this is one of the big cultural differences between the US and Britain. You folks are absolutely obsessed with social issues, but most Americans I know care about taxes, economic issues, and the high unemployment. I think DADT is not anywhere near as important as you think it is. Changes made on social issues are not going to make a dime's worth of difference when unemployment is near 10 percent. DADT won't save Obama's presidency. DADT isn't important when people are losing their jobs and can't pay their mortgages. The only thing that will save Obama is getting unemployment down to 6-7%. If unemployment stays above 8%, Obama is going to lose the next election badly.

That's crap, he has had 2 years to turn things around, instead every day of his presidency has been worse than the previous day. Maybe if he didn't spend so much time playing golf and basketball or going on lavish vacations and actually made lowering unemployment his focus, things wouldn't be such a mess. On the other hand, the more golf he plays, the less time he has to screw things up even more. Maybe he should just keep avoiding work altogether.

Many other economies are in an equally bad, or worse state. Besides, he has had some success, saving 3 million jobs apparently.

Unemployment has skyrocketed since he has taken office, and there is no end in sight. If he has saved a job, it sure isn't showing up in the numbers. We're at nearly 10 percent unemployment. When the numbers start coming down instead of going up, maybe he might have something positive to point to since taking office.

Unemployment has skyrocketed since he has taken office, and there is no end in sight. If he has saved a job, it sure isn't showing up in the numbers. We're at nearly 10 percent unemployment. When the numbers start coming down instead of going up, maybe he might have something positive to point to since taking office.

what policies do you want him to bring in to tackle unemployment? What do you think McCain would be doing differently had he won?

Is this not a bit like Roosevelt where he tries to pump more money it to create jobs and it's not until after his presidency things turn around, he had a major hand but people don't thank him, they thank the last leader who can take the credit.

Your nation has ridiculous debts and a real crisis, two years isn't enough time..maybe a decade. I mean look at Britain as well, our government is axing investment, closing down government bodies, tons of jobs are being lost and they expect the private sector to pick up the slack...when the private sector is letting people go as it is...I'd prefer less harsh cuts and a slower recovery then a double dip which I fear the VAT rise among other things will cause next year..

Unemployment has skyrocketed since he has taken office, and there is no end in sight. If he has saved a job, it sure isn't showing up in the numbers. We're at nearly 10 percent unemployment. When the numbers start coming down instead of going up, maybe he might have something positive to point to since taking office.