Musician tour earnings released - more than footballers pay! (gasp)

Please, if you don't understand football, just don't talk.

If you're going to refer to it as 22 men kicking a ball around a field for 90 minutes then kindly throw yourself into an incinerator.

Ok, let's go back to base level then:

To repeat what I've already said, they spend 5 days kicking a football around a field, then an hour and a half kicking it around a stadium. Don't get me wrong, I know it's hard, but that's essentially what's going on there.

Musicians do a hell of a lot more than that (actually read what I wrote in the post you quoted to discover the rest of it).

They deserve it because we are all stupid enough to buy it.

At base level that's what it is. Same with musicians, except when in concert they spend anywhere between an hour and 3 hours (if they're feeling adventurous, like Neurosis) they do their part then leave.

But piracy is killing music

Both require talent to get anywhere. Maybe not so much with some modern pop music, but to be a top earning footballer you need to have lots of have ability

>implying lady gaga is a typical musician with average earnings.

Gimme a break, I've how Liverpool have been playing this season. The players still earn more than most people
True, they've picked up at intervals, but have hardly been anything special. Not like the good old days...

She is one of the top earners in her industry, and I have compared her to the top earners in other industries. I did not say she is "average", nor imply it.

Footballers do a lot more than what you've described, as well. You can dumb down singing to practising a bit then giving a performance (just like how you dumbed football down to practising a bit then playing a match), but we both know that a lot more goes on for both groups of people. There are heaps of people who failed in their quest to become a top footballer/musician, there must be something that separates those at the top from the rest.

Whatever this thing is, the fact is that the top musicians and the top footballers provide a service that people are willing to consume, and to pay for. Because of this they earn lots of month. But top musicians, like top golfers/boxers/CEOs, earn a lot more than top footballers. That is my main gripe here: why do people consistently complain that footballers earn too much money when lots of other groups of people performing similar tasks can earn several times more than even the very top football players?

I don't want to argue about the specifics of what Lady Gaga does day-to-day compared to, say Steven Gerrard, but they essentially both prepare to provide a service which people want to watch and will pay money for.

It's implied in the title.

While I see your point, I still thinks it's fair to point out everything that musicians have to pay for that footballers don't. I would imagine that the club/sponsors pay for travel/hotels/etc, whereas a musician would usually (unless signed to a big label) have to fork out for it themselves.
Also, boxers get punched for a living. Hardly fair to compare them to footballers

Top musicians earn more than top footballers, yes. I did not mean (nor state) I was comparing the lower quartile or the average or anything like that. I can see why you inferred that though - sorry I can't change the title now.

That said though, I think I was as fair as I could be comparing her (as one of the top earning musicians) with the top earning people in other sectors.

What about golfers, F1 drivers, baseball players
Who often earn just as much if not more money

Fair enough.
Got any data on Genesis' 2007 tour? They must have been earning a million at least each per concert, that's taking into account all of the costs.

Another heavy-hitting international arena/stadium outing was Genesis' Turn It on Again tour, produced by Michael Cohl's CPI. Selling out stadiums in Europe and arenas in the United States, Genesis' 46 shows grossed $129 million.

The hotel fees they spend over the year is nothing compared to how much more the top singers get compared to the top footballers. Nothing.

And footballers get injured a lot more than musicians, it's not fair to compare them... . That is a nothing argument again Each person has a free choice which sector to go in to.

Also, did you neg my OP? Someone did and it took 3 rep points off me, you are the only person here with enough rep to do that...

Footballers are overpaid imbeciles.

Muscians at least do something useful.