The Arsenal Society VIII

Then 95% of players are diving pricks because they would have done what he did, he's a wum but if he doesn't go down then chances are N'Z doesn't get sent off, would have been stupid not to go down

Yeah I know almost any other player would have done the same, I didn't say otherwise, but it still deserves a mention. It's part of the diving culture in football which the refs don't help by not giving fouls and cards unless a player rolls around on the floor.

Making 8 changes was a good call. You have to take into concideration that Arsenal have 2 games a weeks for the next 3 months so he need to rest his players.

Having said that, the stupid move was to put on Nasri and Walcott on at the 81st minutes.

Seen a few Newcastle games and Sol's been a car wreck. He wouldn't have been any better. Squillaci was brought on as cover and the injury to Vermaelen's hit us hard...although with Wenger in charge we have to accept we're going to concede a bucketload. No matter what defenders are out there, our defensive record will be cack.

That's why the 8 changes become important. Because we can't defend, every line-up we name has to have a lot of goals in them. We might've had 'enough' but the manager has to pick the XI that gives us the best possible chance of winning. If you're telling me Van Persie, Walcott, Nasri, Wilshere, Song, Rosicky/Arshavin wouldn't have offered us a better chance of scoring more than Bendtner, Chamakh, Arshavin, Diaby, Denilson, Rosicky -- I just can't agree with that.

You're saying that Champions would've fielded a 2nd string and got a result -- that's not true. Champions wouldn't have fannied about with the line-up so much in the first place. Man City, Tottenham, Man Utd, Chelsea -- none of them made anywhere close to 8 changes. What makes us so special that we can afford to do that?

Especially with Fabregas missing, we needed to show more respect to Wigan. A better line-up would've seen us out of sight by half-time.

just heard that henry will be training with our squad until mls starts...take lessons theo!

We had a disadvantage that Wigan played three days ago and only 48 hours ago we played a big game in the evening. I had to change it because we play on Saturday and again on Wednesday so we can't always play with the same team. But I don’t think that was a problem at all.

people need to stop taking wenger's post match interviews seriously....
His priorities are 'protecting' his players by shifting the blame to the ref , pitch etc even if it means spouting bs.

I have to disagree, tbh. At times what you're saying would be right, but not all of time and not this time. This isn't about protecting the players, it's about accepting his tactical failure; something he'll never do. His overprotection of players is part of the reason we lose games like this anyway, they know that they can walk all over him without any backlash and generally don't give a ****. Other than Wilshere and Rosicky, can you name a player out there last night that looked as if they really genuinely cared? Even if you can, there's no way can you say every player did, which is something you should be able to do.

Whilst at times it may be frustrating to see, being a bad loser is a good characteristic at the top level; it drives teams to success. Look at most of the managers considered to be the best around and you'll see it. Which is why, in principle, I have no problem with us being managed by a poor loser, in fact, I'd probably encourage it. Wenger however, is different to these other managers - they might initially react badly to a poor result, not accept blame where it's due and look for excuses, but they'll go away, examine their failures and not let them happen again. Wenger seems to genuinely believe the ****e he feeds the media and even if he doesn't, he never seems to learn from the actual mistakes, anyway. He's such an arrogant ****ing WUM, it's unbelievable.