The Student Room Group

proof of the differential of sin x

Scroll to see replies

Reply 20
Original post by Plato's Trousers
actually, yes, I was just re-reading it and wasn't happy with that part. :frown:


Remember the law of limits: lim[f(h)g(h)]=[limf(h)][limg(h)]\lim \left[ f(h) g(h) \right] = \left[\lim f(h)\right] \left[\lim g(h) \right]
(edited 13 years ago)
Original post by Saichu
Remember the law of limits: lim[f(h)g(h)]=[limf(h)][limg(h)]\lim \left[ f(h) g(h) \right] = \left[\lim f(h)\right] \left[\lim g(h) \right]


so do you mean that if we re-write sin2hh-\dfrac{\sin^2 h}{h} as a product

sinhhsinh-\dfrac{\sin h}{h}\sin h

and take the limits of each in turn, the product of those limits is the limit of the product?

So,

limh0sinhh=1\displaystyle\lim_{h\rightarrow0}-\dfrac{\sin h}{h}=1

and


limh0sinh=0\displaystyle\lim_{h\rightarrow0}\sin h=0

the the limit of the product is zero?
Reply 22
Original post by Plato's Trousers
so do you mean that if we re-write as a product



and take the limits of each in turn, the product of those limits is the limit of the product?

So,



and




the the limit of the product is zero?


that's correct
Reply 23
limh0  sinhcosx=0\displaystyle\lim_{h\rightarrow 0}\;\sin h\cos x = 0

This is the problem line. The statement you need to make for your proof to work is:

limh0  sinhcosx=hcosx\displaystyle\lim_{h\rightarrow 0}\;\sin h\cos x = h cosx

You can then cancel the h on top by the h on the bottom. I know it's not a rigorous proof by any means, but it's what makes it work for C3/C4.

It's like:
0.0001cosx0.0001=cosx \frac {0.0001 cos{x}}{0.0001} = cos{x}
0.00000009999cosx0.00000009999=cosx \frac {0.00000009999 cos{x}}{0.00000009999} = cos{x}

limh0  sinhcosx=0\displaystyle\lim_{h\rightarrow 0}\;\sin h\cos x = 0
And
limh0  sinhcosx=hcosx\displaystyle\lim_{h\rightarrow 0}\;\sin h\cos x = h cosx
Are equivalent on the limit..

Try for yourself: sin(0.0001) x cos(x) = 0.000099999 cos)x)
(edited 13 years ago)
Reply 24
Original post by OS92
limh0  sinhcosx=0\displaystyle\lim_{h\rightarrow 0}\;\sin h\cos x = 0

This is the problem line. The statement you need to make for your proof to work is:

limh0  sinhcosx=hcosx\displaystyle\lim_{h\rightarrow 0}\;\sin h\cos x = h cosx


Nope. His line was fine, it's your line which doesn't make sense.
Reply 25
Original post by OS92
limh0  sinhcosx=0\displaystyle\lim_{h\rightarrow 0}\;\sin h\cos x = 0

This is the problem line. The statement you need to make for your proof to work is:

limh0  sinhcosx=hcosx\displaystyle\lim_{h\rightarrow 0}\;\sin h\cos x = h cosx

You can then cancel the h on top by the h on the bottom. I know it's not a rigorous proof by any means, but it's what makes it work for C3/C4.

It's like:
0.0001cosx0.0001=cosx \frac {0.0001 cos{x}}{0.0001} = cos{x}
0.00000009999cosx0.00000009999=cosx \frac {0.00000009999 cos{x}}{0.00000009999} = cos{x}

limh0  sinhcosx=0\displaystyle\lim_{h\rightarrow 0}\;\sin h\cos x = 0
And
limh0  sinhcosx=hcosx\displaystyle\lim_{h\rightarrow 0}\;\sin h\cos x = h cosx
Are equivalent on the limit..

Try for yourself: sin(0.0001) x cos(x) = 0.000099999 cos)x)


Sorry, but your whole post is nonsense. I don't think you really understand how limits work. In particular, this statement means nothing and is not true:

limh0  sinhcosx=hcosx\displaystyle\lim_{h\rightarrow 0}\;\sin h\cos x = h cosx

Once h tends to 0, it can't appear on the RHS.
Original post by SimonM
Nope. His line was fine, it's your line which doesn't make sense.



Original post by Swayum
Sorry, but your whole post is nonsense. I don't think you really understand how limits work.



Thanks guys! I was starting to get confused again, having thought I understood it nicely :smile:

Quick Reply

Latest