The Arsenal Society VIII

You base a lot of your opinions on newspaper rumours with no substance rather than forming some for yourself. Well done.

I have moved away for Uni so I haven't been to watch Arsenal as much as I would like this season. I still think it's a stupid point to bring up asking about the amount of games a fan goes to. By your logic every manager has to have been a season ticket holder or else their abilities are inferior to those who do have a season ticket.

You are a perfect example, a perfect example of why academics like yourself and football do no go hand in hand. I brought up to West Ham players, and as a West Ham fan instead of being honest you thought being a good fan would be praising Carlton for his efforts 18 months ago and putting in a good word for Matthew. When you sign a player you don't make purchases solely on current short term form. I don't care if he was in form 18 months ago because the fact of the matter is he is awful today and the signing would have been a complete flop. The man has scored 3 goals in 22 games, what a joke.

Real fans care about the team, that's why Liverpool were chanting Dalglish's name
instead of Hodgson's. People like you don't blend in with proper fans. I'm stereotyping as some academics might understand the sport and see potential but for the most part it is like a hobby for most of you to support a team. My words are harsh and attract negative rep from nerds but I don't care, for the most part it's true. You can side with each other as much as you want on an internet forum but in the real world you're misfits. Football isn't for everyone.

I would have thought a manager wouldn't need to buy a season ticket as he is paid to sit in his seat every game

Being a wind up is a by product of caring. Football is a passion of mine, not casual recreational viewing like most of you guys. I know when I see good players, good management and good football. Arsenal are so far from that right now that it's shameful. Our goal keepers and centre backs are laughable. Our "good" players such as Song, Clichy, Ramsey, Wilshire etc. are not good enough for a title winning team and only stand out amongst the pure trash such as Denilson, Walcott, Bendtner etc. Wilshire and Ramsey definitely have the potential to be one day, but 5 seasons down the line from not winning anything I'm tired of waiting, personally. Our transfers have been an absolute joke. Players like Vieira and Henry leaving were very detrimental to the club, it goes without saying our last trophy came as a result of Vieira's last game for the club. Even the new talent like Toure, Adebayor, Flamini etc. leaving was a testament to how unambitious Arsenal are. Everyone can make excuses for each player leaving but the bottom line is if Arsenal were a serious competitive club they would never have left, footballers want to be successful and all of them saw this was not going to happen at Arsenal. There is a reason we can't get in big names but our big names like Fabregas would like to play elsewhere. We are not a serious club in Europe, we are falling slowly. Barcelona couldn't have wished for a better opposition in the final 16. Our man management and tactics over the last season have been devastating to our quest for success. This lies solely on Wenger's shoulders. Speculation about Carlton Cole and Matthew Upson joining shows what kind of team we are trying to be. It's very sad.

As you don't know me in the real world, this post is one big lol. I did 6 years of manual labour before I went to uni so I know a thing or two about the real world. I've also held season tickets through relegation and promotion seasons so I know a thing about supporting my team and loyalty. Just to clear that up between us.

And as for being at university and criticising academics not belonging in football? Why would managers need to be season ticket holders? Where is your proof that Wenger wants to sign Cole or Upson? The boat just sunk on your fishing trip.

The fact is pal you're a plastic who never goes to games and hides behind a keyboard.

People who have been to a game know that. Unfortunately not everyone has and presumably those that haven't make the assumption that the manager sits with the fans. But that's just a guess.

People who have been to a game know that. Unfortunately not everyone has and presumably those that haven't make the assumption that the manager sits with the fans. But that's just a guess.

I would have thought a manager wouldn't need to buy a season ticket as he is paid to sit in his seat every game

You can edit your posts as much as you wont, you still wont come across any better.
I said I can't speak for everyone, but I can speak for most. You might know your stuff but the majority of people on here don't.

You were questioning my footballing intelligence on the basis of how many games I attend. The correlation between owning a season ticket and understanding football is zero.

My fishing trip is in full flow mate, there may be no proof that Wenger was after Cole or is after Upson but if it is speculation it is not completely unrealistic. After all his only signing to strengthen our attack was Chamakh for free so now we have two forwards who have never scored more than 15 goals in a domestic league, that may not be as bad as Cole but it's all the same.

I agree with a fair bit of what you have to say. But in the pursuit of 'winning', there are certain things you cannot accept. I'm also not happy with the manager, most of the players and what's going on with the club in general, but the fact that you suggest letting Adebayor leave is a sign of a lack of ambition tells me you have no idea what it is to support this club.

Is Adebayor better than Chamakh, Bendtner, Vela and more reliable than Van Persie? Yes. Is Cashley better than Clichy and likely to be better than any left-back we'll play in the next few years? Yes. Neither of these should factor in to why we let them go. I don't like a lot of what Wenger's doing but the day our manager lets parasites like that insult the club and ourselves -- who made them what they were -- they'll be forced to **** off.

I said "By your logic every manager has to have been a season ticket holder or else their abilities are inferior to those who do have a season ticket."

By your logic, not mine. To break it down I'm sure most managers never owned a season ticket before they were a manager but that doesn't make them unqualified to be in a high position in football. Therefore what relevance would me not having a season ticket have for me to be passing my comments? Would I not be worthy?

I never mentioned season tickets, I asked you how many games you've been to this season. You then rambled some nonsense, about managers having season tickets. Managers that have been involved full time in football for a number of years.

Would you not be worthy of posting football related comments on a student forum? And you're linking this to footy managers needing a season ticket?

I can't help but think that a top manager like Mourinho would have been able to hold on to some of those players Wenger had to let go as Mourinho has a superb man management style.

Look at this guy. You have come over to the Arsenal forum and in an attempt to impress the Arsenal regulars you have challenged me for my critical but yet more realistic views. I have no idea who you think you are but I recommend you go and agree with Marcus's posts instead of disagree with mine. I'm sure you will get just as much positive rep that you are here seeking.

Nice of you to skilfully dodge my question.

For a (supposed) Arsenal fan you sure do moan about a load of problems but never offer any solutions.