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Reply 2560
Random q: How many of you here are involved in your uni's or colleges CU? Just quite intrigued tbh.

Also I am so excited to go to church tomorrow, I miss my church at uni when I'm back at home (become very disillusioned with the church back home and need to find a new one but find it difficult to do so) and so haven't gone over christmas.
Original post by 22KT22
Random q: How many of you here are involved in your uni's or colleges CU? Just quite intrigued tbh.

Also I am so excited to go to church tomorrow, I miss my church at uni when I'm back at home (become very disillusioned with the church back home and need to find a new one but find it difficult to do so) and so haven't gone over christmas.


I go to my uni CU, really find it hugely encouraging to see just how many Christians there are on campus, plus the worship and talks are amazing!

Still in process of church searching so I guess I rely on my CU even more as I haven't settled at a church...
Oh yeah, I said I'd go to church, didn't I?

Erm... next week. I have to get to da computer room before it closes today :facepalm2:
Reply 2563
What's the belief about the fate of Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Atheists etc, and are there different points of view?
Original post by roots
What's the belief about the fate of Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Atheists etc, and are there different points of view?


The only way to heaven is through Christ.
"I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father, but through Me" (John 14:6)

In other words, anyone who isn't a follower of Christ will not go to Heaven.
Original post by roots
What's the belief about the fate of Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Atheists etc?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous_Christian

greeneyedgirl
In other words, anyone who isn't a follower of Christ will not go to Heaven.


Original post by roots
are there different points of view?


Clearly :tongue:
Original post by greeneyedgirl

Original post by greeneyedgirl
The only way to heaven is through Christ.
"I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father, but through Me" (John 14:6)

In other words, anyone who isn't a follower of Christ will not go to Heaven.

but what about the people who never hear about Jesus?!?!?! :nooo:
Reply 2567
Original post by + polarity -
but what about the people who never hear about Jesus?!?!?! :nooo:


I don't subscribe to exclusivity regarding salvation. The quote to justify it could just as easily be explained by Christ's sacrifice being a conduit through which people reach the Father.

And of course, your comment above perfectly illustrates the shortcomings of professing an exclusive opportunity for Christians only, excluding all other good, righteous people from Heaven.

The Cathecism of the Catholic Church [CCC] states at para 847
"Those who through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or His Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and moved by grace, try in their actions to do His will as they know it throught the dictates of their conscience - these too may achieve eternal salvation."

The thing is, not everything that Jesus taught is recorded in Scripture (we are told this in the Gospel according to John. So if we rely only on Scripture rather than taking into account Sacred Tradition, we are short-changing ourselves.

The quote above also comments that although God, in ways known to Himself, can lead those who, through no fault of their own, are ignorant of the Gospel, to that faith without which is it impossible to please Him, the Church still has the obligation, and also the sacred right to evangelise all men. Heb. 11:6 and 1 Cor. 9:16 refers.

An observation about you...you're not a Christian, are you?
Reply 2568
Original post by greeneyedgirl
I go to my uni CU, really find it hugely encouraging to see just how many Christians there are on campus, plus the worship and talks are amazing!

Still in process of church searching so I guess I rely on my CU even more as I haven't settled at a church...


Thanks for that answer, I had to opposite feeling about my CU since they had some rather rubbish and insane talks which put me off them hugely alongside them always judging people when we have no right to do that and the only one who does is God. There are some CUs I've heard about which are amazing, however, a lot of other people I've spoken to have felt the same as me. Guess it's different strokes for different folks. It's one of those which is amazing in practise but then it's down to the people that run it and how they take it.

Anyone else have any experience with their uni/college CU?
Original post by greeneyedgirl
I go to my uni CU, really find it hugely encouraging to see just how many Christians there are on campus, plus the worship and talks are amazing!

Still in process of church searching so I guess I rely on my CU even more as I haven't settled at a church...


I have been to mine a few times as one of my good friends goes their often, but i never seem to find a spare evening to go especially on top of my own church things too
Original post by roots
What's the belief about the fate of Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Atheists etc, and are there different points of view?




^^^ This. See also http://www.theopedia.com/Inclusivism :smile:
Original post by Tzarchasm
Thank you so much for the support!

I understand that praying is a private matter and it differentiates between each individual but don't mind me asking, how do you both do it? It's an awkward question and you do not need to answer it all; I'm just curious.



The way I pray varies depending on where I am and what I am doing. Sometimes it can be just something as simple as on my way to see a sick patient praying that god will guide me in what I do and help me to know what to do. I also try to put some time aside in the evenings where I will listen to some worship music, sometimes read bits of the bible and then I just talk really. I didn't grow up praying but I am finding it easier.

If you are involved in a church is there anyone that you could arrange to meet up with and you could pray with them? I sometimes find that helpful.
Original post by 22KT22
Thanks for that answer, I had to opposite feeling about my CU since they had some rather rubbish and insane talks which put me off them hugely alongside them always judging people when we have no right to do that and the only one who does is God. There are some CUs I've heard about which are amazing, however, a lot of other people I've spoken to have felt the same as me. Guess it's different strokes for different folks. It's one of those which is amazing in practise but then it's down to the people that run it and how they take it.

Anyone else have any experience with their uni/college CU?


Some parts amazing, some parts absolutely insane. Most people I know only see one of these (including a fair few who think it's absolutely insane), but know that you're probably not alone if you've grown up to see most Christians as reasonable and welcoming and gone to uni to find out it's not so :tongue:
Original post by 22KT22
Random q: How many of you here are involved in your uni's or colleges CU? Just quite intrigued tbh.

Also I am so excited to go to church tomorrow, I miss my church at uni when I'm back at home (become very disillusioned with the church back home and need to find a new one but find it difficult to do so) and so haven't gone over christmas.


I'm quite involved in the CU, in the sense I help lead one of their hall groups, but I rarely go to central because it's a half hour walk and I just don't get that much out of it. (and I'm already commiting a fair bit of my time to the stuff I do in hall) And I commit two evenings a week to church (the sunday service and the student group, and I try to do saturday night worship too)

I'd say that church is more important than CU. CU can be good for meeting others, socialising and helping you link up with church, it can also be a very effective evangelistic tool. But I definately don't think it's the be-all end-all of Christian life at uni.

Original post by greeneyedgirl
I go to my uni CU, really find it hugely encouraging to see just how many Christians there are on campus, plus the worship and talks are amazing!

Still in process of church searching so I guess I rely on my CU even more as I haven't settled at a church...


I'd really encourage you to keep up with the church search, don't worry if you haven't found one you want to commit to yet, but it's commiting to a specific church that can really help it grow.. I mean it's hard to invite someone to church with you if you're not commited to a church. Don't worry, I'm not criticising in any way, I just want to encourage you! I spent the first month of uni convinced I didn't need a church, because I had been so poorly provided for by my church at home.
Original post by Purple Haze
I have been to mine a few times as one of my good friends goes their often, but i never seem to find a spare evening to go especially on top of my own church things too

See above where I ramble on about being commited to church beats CU :tongue:

Original post by Calumcalum
Some parts amazing, some parts absolutely insane. Most people I know only see one of these (including a fair few who think it's absolutely insane), but know that you're probably not alone if you've grown up to see most Christians as reasonable and welcoming and gone to uni to find out it's not so :tongue:


From this thread I seem to have picked up that some CU's are actually really good balanced enviroments. Unfortunately this isn't true everywhere - perhaps this is something we as a group can pray into, given (as students) the relative important of CU's throughout universities?
Original post by rainbowbex
I'm glad you like it :h: I know I don't even run this group, but I'd like to think I'm a pretty frequent lurker and it gives me joy that something as simple as a thread on an online forum can support people in their journey with Christ and well, life in general (oops almost too deep)


Well it's just nice to know that there are young people who aren't scared to talk about God; I know there are a few people in my church who hide their faith through fear of what other people think about them.. which I think is very sad seeing as having God in our lives is such a privilege and something that we should be very proud and thankful for.
Original post by Gemma :)!
Well it's just nice to know that there are young people who aren't scared to talk about God; I know there are a few people in my church who hide their faith through fear of what other people think about them.. which I think is very sad seeing as having God in our lives is such a privilege and something that we should be very proud and thankful for.


there is a lot in the bible about prejudice and persecution. Obviously not on the scale as you'd get in korea, but Christians in the UK are still persecuted for their faith. Be it just saying 'I believe in God' and having someone tell you you're an idiot for it, etc.

on another note, that was without a doubt a perfect scrambled egg.

Original post by yawn
I don't subscribe to exclusivity regarding salvation. The quote to justify it could just as easily be explained by Christ's sacrifice being a conduit through which people reach the Father.

And of course, your comment above perfectly illustrates the shortcomings of professing an exclusive opportunity for Christians only, excluding all other good, righteous people from Heaven.

The Cathecism of the Catholic Church [CCC] states at para 847
"Those who through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or His Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and moved by grace, try in their actions to do His will as they know it throught the dictates of their conscience - these too may achieve eternal salvation."

The thing is, not everything that Jesus taught is recorded in Scripture (we are told this in the Gospel according to John. So if we rely only on Scripture rather than taking into account Sacred Tradition, we are short-changing ourselves.

The quote above also comments that although God, in ways known to Himself, can lead those who, through no fault of their own, are ignorant of the Gospel, to that faith without which is it impossible to please Him, the Church still has the obligation, and also the sacred right to evangelise all men. Heb. 11:6 and 1 Cor. 9:16 refers.

An observation about you...you're not a Christian, are you?

It's something I'm not sure about myself. Exclusivism doesn't seem fair or just, to me. Maybe everyone gets a chance. Just before they die. I don't know. :dontknow:

But how do you know? :zomg: Where did this Tradition come from?

I am :rofl:

We do know that no person can be saved except through Christ; we do not know that only those who know Him can be saved by Him.

This!
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Original post by randdom
The way I pray varies depending on where I am and what I am doing. Sometimes it can be just something as simple as on my way to see a sick patient praying that god will guide me in what I do and help me to know what to do. I also try to put some time aside in the evenings where I will listen to some worship music, sometimes read bits of the bible and then I just talk really. I didn't grow up praying but I am finding it easier.

If you are involved in a church is there anyone that you could arrange to meet up with and you could pray with them? I sometimes find that helpful.


I could possibly try. Thanks. :tongue:

Original post by roots
What's the belief about the fate of Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Atheists etc, and are there different points of view?


The same question answered. It's evident that there are a lot of different points of view.

http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,32732.0.html
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Original post by 22KT22
Anyone else have any experience with their uni/college CU?


I think CUs generally in the UK tend to be very oriented towards conversative evangelical-type Christians, which can sometimes make things awkward for Christians with other theological ideas, but i think it's generally positive just to have a regular group of Christians to meet up with, so i'd just recommend going wherever does the most of that, whether church or CU. I mainly go to CU just because it's very convenient (all the college meetings last year were in my room).
Reply 2579
Original post by greeneyedgirl
I go to my uni CU, really find it hugely encouraging to see just how many Christians there are on campus, plus the worship and talks are amazing!

Still in process of church searching so I guess I rely on my CU even more as I haven't settled at a church...


Which churches have you tried? It took me a while to find somewhere I felt comfortable - it's worth it though, if you can manage it.

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