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Turkish Gambit by Boris Akunin
Original post by Lizzy the Bookworm

Original post by Lizzy the Bookworm
What is it with writers and incest?. I'll try Dance Dance Dance. Thanks :smile:

Oh I KNOW. I hate it!!! My philosophy textbook is so NOT my idea of a good evening read. It destroys my soul :frown:
Yeah, I'm more of a novel person. Or plays.
Bit random, but can you think of any poems depicting a destructive relationship between men and women? It's for my Eng Lit coursework, and I'm struggling a bit to think of any.... Thanks


Eugh, that's a nasty English Lit coursework task... what exam board are you doing? I think we had to do a comparison on two poems, a Shakespeare sonnet and one of Donne's.... destructive relationships? :s Eh, I suppose you could relate that back to Donne perhaps... I've read quite of few of his and studied them (admittedly last year :redface:) lemme skim through my od notes...

Well, Donne quite often wrote poems around 'relationships' I think in many ways His verses often point out the selfishness inherent to new love, as in The Good-Morrow. Here, Donne's focus is on the exploration of the new world, which he then sort of turns on its head to imply that his entire world is formed between his mistress and himself. The relationship there is between somone and his mistress... so I'm not quite sure how that's specifically destructive per se but there is a bit of misogynism in his poems... (not at the time of course, since that's how women were treated; it's just that nowadays we all shout at any opportuinty to go: SEXIST! MISOGYNIST! Or similiar :smile:) and I suppose you could turn that into a destructive element...

'(Love) makes one room an everywhere.' His poetic conception is an explication of the emotional vanity in underlying love. A clearer example is seen in The Sun Rising with the lines 'She is all states, and all princes I,/Nothing else is.' I think here, with the equal weight of both his mistress and Donne's part, we see a much more balanced relationship...

Okay... so I'm thinking none of that is actually relevent to destructive? I've pratically coppied out my notes, but then I was doing a comparison essay. Perhaps you could look for some poems about how love has lead to... death? A bit morbid, but that would certainly tick the 'destructive' box. :tongue:

Sorry I couldn't help more! Good luck!!
Original post by gCarroll
gCarroll is reading :

'A Scanner Darkly' by P.K. Dick
'Black Mischief' by Evelyn Waugh
'Fermats last theorem' Simon Singh


I was just writing to say "The Man in the High Castle"

PKD
"The Perks of Being a Wallflower."
I'm going through a horrible break-up and it's the first book on my shelf to have made me smile :smile:
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The Prelude, William Wordsworth
Levinas: An Introduction, Colin Davis
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I really miss reading novels that are not on the reading list of any of my courses.
Original post by Forever a Gnome
Jane Eyre - Charlotte Bronte
Language, Truth and Logic - A.J. Ayer
Media Control - Noam Chomsky
:colondollar:


What do you think of the Chomsky one. I've read half of it so far. How would you rate it in comparison to his other books and does his writing style vary in "bigger" editions? This is assuming you've read others (as you can tell, I haven't) :P
also how is the Ayer one?
Porno - Irvine Welsh.
Gifted - Nikita Lalwani

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Original post by .Scout.
Porno - Irvine Welsh.


Is it what I think it is? :teehee:
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All the **** my mum bought me for christmas which I have to read out of politeness.
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The Motorcycle Diaries by Ernesto 'Che' Guevara
Great Expectations
Original post by yourworstnightmare
Is it what I think it is? :teehee:


Yes...I did just say Porno...
Read it, it's good :h:
Original post by KingofSpades
What do you think of the Chomsky one. I've read half of it so far. How would you rate it in comparison to his other books and does his writing style vary in "bigger" editions? This is assuming you've read others (as you can tell, I haven't) :P
also how is the Ayer one?


I've not really read any of the other Chomsky ones, so I can't comment on that, but I do like this one, kind of enlightening I guess, some of it I'd already put together myself :redface:
The Ayer one's interesting, but some of his theories don't really work... I have to say, I did mainly get it to help my A2 RS :colondollar:
The Jane Eyre's my usual type of book :rolleyes:
Original post by Forever a Gnome
I've not really read any of the other Chomsky ones, so I can't comment on that, but I do like this one, kind of enlightening I guess, some of it I'd already put together myself :redface:
The Ayer one's interesting, but some of his theories don't really work... I have to say, I did mainly get it to help my A2 RS :colondollar:
The Jane Eyre's my usual type of book :rolleyes:


I would say pretty much the same about the Chomsky one- it's short and reads more like a rant. He doesn't present much (if any) evidence, and what he says is something most people have thought about before (ie. that the "herd" doesn't know what is best for itself, so others have to decide for it). He constantly refers to a"they" and a "them", but doesn't point out who this "executive class" are. His language is riddled with rhetoric and is perhaps the only example of propaganda in the book. I hoped he would discuss techniques. I ordered the Ayer one last night :P
Original post by KingofSpades
I would say pretty much the same about the Chomsky one- it's short and reads more like a rant. He doesn't present much (if any) evidence, and what he says is something most people have thought about before (ie. that the "herd" doesn't know what is best for itself, so others have to decide for it). He constantly refers to a"they" and a "them", but doesn't point out who this "executive class" are. His language is riddled with rhetoric and is perhaps the only example of propaganda in the book. I hoped he would discuss techniques. I ordered the Ayer one last night :P


Yeah it's good if you're already on some sort of anti-government agenda, but not so much for facts or new information.. I did like the Ayer one though, even if his ideas are a little odd :smile:
Freedom - Jonathan Franzen

Just finished The Corrections also by Jonathan Franzen.

Two great insights into the sort of world we live in.
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Original post by mikeyd85
Great Expectations


I was just about to make this post. You're not doing Eng Lit at Manchester perchance?

Edit- should have just read your profile which says you're not. How are you finding Great Expectations anyway?
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Original post by missygeorgia
I was just about to make this post. You're not doing Eng Lit at Manchester perchance?

Edit- should have just read your profile which says you're not. How are you finding Great Expectations anyway?


No no, I'm reading it as I'm more than aware that culturally, I'm really quite ill educated. A friend of mine was given a load of classics for Christmas and she's lent me this one as a start.

Personally, I'm really liking it. I love the way Dickens writes - his sentence structure is fantastic! :biggrin:

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