Contemplating suicide due to chronic pain - GP dismissive.
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Original post by 2ndClass
I know how you feel, when my wisdom tooth ruptured the pain was ****ing blinding and in my oh so great wisdom (no pun intended) I decided to use salt water to sooth the infection, little did I know I had a rather large hole in the tooth and so, you can pretty much guess what happened next. An infected tooth, rupturing coupled with salty water going in the nerves. Never was I so close to killing myself in my life. Dentist was closed over the weekend, pharmacy was also closed as it was a Sunday and all I had were shi**y paracetamols.
My pain probably pales in comparison to yours but I attest to the fact that there is no pain like dental pain.
My pain probably pales in comparison to yours but I attest to the fact that there is no pain like dental pain.
That description made me feel ill. OUCH!
OP, you have to really really push with the NHS, they seem to like telling people to get lost. I was in constant agony for almost a year before they decided to finally believe me.
Original post by Lozza_00
Keep going back to the same GP every day/week until they get the message
I've been back many many times. I go to a clinic so I see a different GP every time. My assigned GP is OK but she is hardly ever there.
Some of them also make me feel bad about my repeated visits. The last doctor sat there and read me a list of all my last visits, like: "You were here on the 3rd and again on the 12th..." etc. - It made me feel really awful about going back there.
A couple of them have said "If it's that bad go to A&E" which I did, and on both occasions was told to go back to my GP.
On my birthday I was in a lot of pain and my GP told me to go to A&E. I spent 3 hours crying in the waiting room there. I was sat alone in the corner huddled up in pain quietly crying. A lovely old lady came over and tried to comfort me for a bit, but I just felt horrible, like I wanted to die. When I eventually saw a doctor she prescribed ibuprofen and told me that if I've had the pain for 6 months I need to see my GP and should not be in A&E. That night was probably the closest I've come to killing myself.
You may have already tried this, but I would recommend going round every GP surgery in a 30 mile radius. You are entitled to see any doctor in the country, so hopefully you would be able to find one who is more sympathetic. I have done this in the past (admittedly for much more minor problems) and always managed to find someone who would at least refer me to a specialist.
Also, I managed to get onto the NHS patient list of a very good dermatologist by directly paying for a first consultation with them privately. It is a really unfair system which is why in many areas the NHS will refuse to continue treatment begun privately. It seems this is what happened in your area, but if you are willing to travel you may have more luck elsewhere.
Also, I managed to get onto the NHS patient list of a very good dermatologist by directly paying for a first consultation with them privately. It is a really unfair system which is why in many areas the NHS will refuse to continue treatment begun privately. It seems this is what happened in your area, but if you are willing to travel you may have more luck elsewhere.
I have chronic pain, and sometimes things that seem like stupid little simple steps can help. For example, I now sleep with a pillow between my knees because it helps my back pain. I use Tiger Balm even though it's not medical or anything just because it's a tiny bit better. I also have a Pain Gone Pen - yeah, it's great fun giving yourself electric shocks but it does work.
Original post by Ninat
I've been back many many times. I go to a clinic so I see a different GP every time. My assigned GP is OK but she is hardly ever there.
Some of them also make me feel bad about my repeated visits. The last doctor sat there and read me a list of all my last visits, like: "You were here on the 3rd and again on the 12th..." etc. - It made me feel really awful about going back there.
A couple of them have said "If it's that bad go to A&E" which I did, and on both occasions was told to go back to my GP.
On my birthday I was in a lot of pain and my GP told me to go to A&E. I spent 3 hours crying in the waiting room there. I was sat alone in the corner huddled up in pain quietly crying. A lovely old lady came over and tried to comfort me for a bit, but I just felt horrible, like I wanted to die. When I eventually saw a doctor she prescribed ibuprofen and told me that if I've had the pain for 6 months I need to see my GP and should not be in A&E. That night was probably the closest I've come to killing myself.
Some of them also make me feel bad about my repeated visits. The last doctor sat there and read me a list of all my last visits, like: "You were here on the 3rd and again on the 12th..." etc. - It made me feel really awful about going back there.
A couple of them have said "If it's that bad go to A&E" which I did, and on both occasions was told to go back to my GP.
On my birthday I was in a lot of pain and my GP told me to go to A&E. I spent 3 hours crying in the waiting room there. I was sat alone in the corner huddled up in pain quietly crying. A lovely old lady came over and tried to comfort me for a bit, but I just felt horrible, like I wanted to die. When I eventually saw a doctor she prescribed ibuprofen and told me that if I've had the pain for 6 months I need to see my GP and should not be in A&E. That night was probably the closest I've come to killing myself.
get yourself to a different GP clinic then, explain to A&E that your GP sent you there if that happens again. i know the NHS can be dreadful, ive had experience of that myself but there are good doctors out there, just try writing down all your feelings and handing that over to them. And try not to come across as a wimpy girl as they will think you are exaggerating, explain it in terms of daily life things you cant do due to the pain and be calm and reason with them, explain you have been fobbed off for too long and, though you are aware your condition is chronic, you cant manage it properly atm. sometimes taking an adult with you (i'm 20 and a vet student but they still treat me like a little kid) can just make them listen a little but more
I know how you feel, slightly . About a month ago I had a really....really bad ear infection. Just previous to that I had had to go to the doctors twice in a week over 2 other medical conditions. I was in absolute agony with this ear infection, and when I finally got in at the doctors, the doctor commented how ooo.. only just seen you..she gave me Amoxicillin.. despite me telling her I'd just had it for a wisdom tooth infection and it hadn't had any effect. So she still gave me it and it had no effect whatsoever. In the next week I had lost my hearing, I couldn't move because I went dizzy whenever I stood up and threw up because I was in so much pain. I went back a dose before I was due to, and they gave me doxycycline, and strong cocodamol. Both of them I had an allergic reaction to, I couldn't breathe properly, it felt like someone was stabbing me under the ribs, I rang NHS direct and they were like ''just lay down''... my asthma inhaler did nothing. I went over to the pharmacy and just started crying because I was in so much pain and was too afraid to go to the doctors again because I was made to feel like I was going too much when really everything was coming at once. I was finally persuaded by the pharmacist to go back to the doctor and in the end I got a really nice one. She put on the system that I was allergic to those antibiotics, along with three other ones that I had repeatedly told the GP i was allergic to yet wouldn't listen to me. She gave me a different antibiotic, and lots of useful tips. I was fine after a week, and got my hearing back after 3.
So I know how you feel about how GP's think your losing the plot for coming so much, but at the end of the day, its our health, not theirs, and we have to take care of it and its their duty to help us, so keep going back, every single day until you get the help you need.
So I know how you feel about how GP's think your losing the plot for coming so much, but at the end of the day, its our health, not theirs, and we have to take care of it and its their duty to help us, so keep going back, every single day until you get the help you need.
Ninat, I can totally relate to you. A few years back I had endless days of pain, constant pain, every breath I took seemed like a struggle, I kept going back to my GP but he prescribed me with some pain killers which didn't do anything. I went back and forth on many occasions, and nothing.
One day I went to my GP and cried my eyes out, so embarassing, but I couldn't help it. He then referred me to a physiotherapist.
That helped slightly not much, I decided to do some research and finally tried acupuncture - and even though Im a student and it costed me a bomb, it helped me SO much! Slowly, I saw a change and the pain faded away, i could relive again!
DO NOT attempt suicide its not the answer, maybe go to a homepathic clinic and get some advice, seriously.
Good luck, I hope your pain is eased!
One day I went to my GP and cried my eyes out, so embarassing, but I couldn't help it. He then referred me to a physiotherapist.
That helped slightly not much, I decided to do some research and finally tried acupuncture - and even though Im a student and it costed me a bomb, it helped me SO much! Slowly, I saw a change and the pain faded away, i could relive again!
DO NOT attempt suicide its not the answer, maybe go to a homepathic clinic and get some advice, seriously.
Good luck, I hope your pain is eased!
It would help me if you'd give some idea of what the pain is. To me it simply beggars belief that you could be in this condition and the health service refuses to act. I can only presume they can't work out what the problem is.
Original post by Antonia87
Ignore the stupid unhelpful replies OP. I fully sympathise. My neck injury has totally consumed my life the last 7 months and its sheer hell. My doctors were totally unsympathetic and kept diagnosing me with anxiety. It wasnt until I paid to see a physio that I started to be taken seriously. But every day is a struggle and I am considering leaving uni, because my performance has gone downhill.
But you need to keep attacking it.
But you need to keep attacking it.
Thank you so much for the advice. It's nice to talk to students/younger people on this forum who understand - a lot of the older people on the other forum I visit have basically given up (quit their jobs, claim disability benefit and sit around their homes all day in pain) but I refuse to live a life like that.
Best wishes for your recovery,
Nina
Original post by brianslade20
Depression will go hand in hand with your pain. Get an anti depressant ASAP! They will get you to a place where things are still sh*t but you can avoid the deep dark hole.
Alright i'm going to refrain from sounding harsh but seriously anti depressants don't solve everything and thats the impression i'm getting from your post along with it being as easy as ABC when infact its not.
Been there, done that, failed epically. Recovered through CBT, different strokes for different folks? No...
Also nowadays i've observed that doctors are more likely to send people that exhibit signs of depression etc for talking therapies before resorting to anti depressants.
Fair enough you did mention talking therapies...afterwards.
I hate nowadays that people have the attitude that anti depressants solve everything and that seems to be the first thing they suggest. When theres the crappy range of side effects that accompany them. Smh.
Original post by Mick Travis
It would help me if you'd give some idea of what the pain is. To me it simply beggars belief that you could be in this condition and the health service refuses to act. I can only presume they can't work out what the problem is.
It's a chronic condition. However, many people with it manage to control the symptoms with medication within a month or so.
I was initially misdiagnosed for 4 months, during this time I was put on incorrect medication that exasperated the condition and it got worse. In fact one of the meds I was given is known to trigger this condition as a side effect.
By the time I got a diagnosis and started correct treatment I was in a terrible state. The private doc I saw put me on the highest possible dose of meds she could.
Many drugs can be addictive so the main issue is not to get too obsessed, but at least that would help the pain, although only medicine would help you cope with the pain.
However, not explaining the condition does make it harder for others to give a fully helpful tip.
In terms of the suicidal thoughts however, visit various support groups, call support headquarters. Like one suggested, Mind organisation has done terrific work and can totally sympathise and will help wherever they can.
Good luck with kindest regards.
However, not explaining the condition does make it harder for others to give a fully helpful tip.
In terms of the suicidal thoughts however, visit various support groups, call support headquarters. Like one suggested, Mind organisation has done terrific work and can totally sympathise and will help wherever they can.
Good luck with kindest regards.
Original post by PurpleConverse
Alright i'm going to refrain from sounding harsh but seriously anti depressants don't solve everything and thats the impression i'm getting from your post along with it being as easy as ABC when infact its not.
Been there, done that, failed epically. Recovered through CBT, different strokes for different folks? No...
Also nowadays i've observed that doctors are more likely to send people that exhibit signs of depression etc for talking therapies before resorting to anti depressants.
Fair enough you did mention talking therapies...afterwards.
I hate nowadays that people have the attitude that anti depressants solve everything and that seems to be the first thing they suggest. When theres the crappy range of side effects that accompany them. Smh.
Been there, done that, failed epically. Recovered through CBT, different strokes for different folks? No...
Also nowadays i've observed that doctors are more likely to send people that exhibit signs of depression etc for talking therapies before resorting to anti depressants.
Fair enough you did mention talking therapies...afterwards.
I hate nowadays that people have the attitude that anti depressants solve everything and that seems to be the first thing they suggest. When theres the crappy range of side effects that accompany them. Smh.
Im afraid your comments are not helpful to the OP. Drugs are not inherently evil and can help. I did not suggest anti depressents are a full solution ("things will still be sh*t") My experience is different from yours. Im not interested in a debate or your negativity.
My Mum suffers from chronic pain as well. Have you thought about getting registered disabled (especially if working is too painful/stressful for you)? My Mum's registered disabled and you can get help with all sorts.
Talk to your doctors; tell them you want someone with knowledge in chronic pain since this joker obviously knows nothing. I cannot begin to tell you how much easier these things are with an understanding doctor.
If you have any questions about chronic pain, you can always PM me. You're strong and you can get through this.
Talk to your doctors; tell them you want someone with knowledge in chronic pain since this joker obviously knows nothing. I cannot begin to tell you how much easier these things are with an understanding doctor.
If you have any questions about chronic pain, you can always PM me. You're strong and you can get through this.
Original post by avéry
Original post by avéry
My Mum suffers from chronic pain as well. Have you thought about getting registered disabled (especially if working is too painful/stressful for you)? My Mum's registered disabled and you can get help with all sorts.
Talk to your doctors; tell them you want someone with knowledge in chronic pain since this joker obviously knows nothing. I cannot begin to tell you how much easier these things are with an understanding doctor.
If you have any questions about chronic pain, you can always PM me. You're strong and you can get through this.
Talk to your doctors; tell them you want someone with knowledge in chronic pain since this joker obviously knows nothing. I cannot begin to tell you how much easier these things are with an understanding doctor.
If you have any questions about chronic pain, you can always PM me. You're strong and you can get through this.
There is no such thing as being "registered disabled"
Original post by Juno
There is no such thing as being "registered disabled"
Then being recognised as disabled by the government. Either way you have to be on the disability list to get disabled help.
Original post by avéry
Original post by avéry
Then being recognised as disabled by the government. Either way you have to be on the disability list to get disabled help.
No. There is still no disability list.
You can apply for DLA, which is granted for care and/or mobility needs but there are a lot of disabled people that aren't eligible. Getting DLA or not getting DLA doesn't make any difference in terms of status.
It has not been possible to be registered disabled since about 1995.
Original post by Juno
No. There is still no disability list.
You can apply for DLA, which is granted for care and/or mobility needs but there are a lot of disabled people that aren't eligible. Getting DLA or not getting DLA doesn't make any difference in terms of status.
It has not been possible to be registered disabled since about 1995.
You can apply for DLA, which is granted for care and/or mobility needs but there are a lot of disabled people that aren't eligible. Getting DLA or not getting DLA doesn't make any difference in terms of status.
It has not been possible to be registered disabled since about 1995.
I'm talking about being recognised as being disabled; therefore making life easier when applying for out of work benefits and such.
Whatever way that happens, it still achieves the same effect.
Original post by avéry
Original post by avéry
I'm talking about being recognised as being disabled; therefore making life easier when applying for out of work benefits and such.
Whatever way that happens, it still achieves the same effect.
Whatever way that happens, it still achieves the same effect.
You still have no idea what you are talking about. You have either misunderstood what your mum has said, or your information is very out of date. Either way it is not helpful to talk about things that simply do not exist. Applying for DLA is applying for benefits, not a way to make that easier - there is no way.
Either shut up or do some research. But don't advise people about things that you are making up.
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