Page 3 girls should be banned
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Might Aswell Ban porn on the internet too because children use the internet....
The idea of the 'page 3 girl' seems to be a highly cynical attempt by the company that owns the Sun to sell their paper to a section of the male population that wouldn't otherwise read the news. Worse, it uses that page to push the opinions of the editors (disguised as the thoughts of the models) to their intended target.
the w*nkbank can never be full 
Ahhh the News in Briefs. That's nothing more than a satirical take on bimbos being percieved as idiots actually appearing intelligent and well versed. The Sun is toilet paper (The Times is much better) but that feature is amusing and The Suns ONLY redeeming point
The News in Briefs is the single most hilarious thing produced in modern media.
CHLOE, 22, from Leeds
CHLOE says the work of early 19th-century English philosopher William Hazlitt immediately sprang to mind as she watched Andy Murray win his quarter final yesterday. She added: “Hazlitt said, ‘If you think you can win, you can win. Faith is necessary to victory’.”
It doesn't get any better...
Or this:
"Natasha believes it's vital our troops remain in Iraq. She said: "Our boys are doing a fantastic job peacekeeping. To give in to a minority of extremists would be an insult to the brave soldiers who lost their lives fighting to free Iraq from its evil regime"
The Sun is the most intelligently written newspaper out there.
CHLOE, 22, from Leeds
CHLOE says the work of early 19th-century English philosopher William Hazlitt immediately sprang to mind as she watched Andy Murray win his quarter final yesterday. She added: “Hazlitt said, ‘If you think you can win, you can win. Faith is necessary to victory’.”
It doesn't get any better...
Or this:
"Natasha believes it's vital our troops remain in Iraq. She said: "Our boys are doing a fantastic job peacekeeping. To give in to a minority of extremists would be an insult to the brave soldiers who lost their lives fighting to free Iraq from its evil regime"
The Sun is the most intelligently written newspaper out there.
(edited 13 years ago)
Original post by Sk8rclare
Absolutely! Especially not in such a widely advertised newspaper like the Sun which have millions of readers!
Maybe Dave Cam should concentrate on banning offensive material like this instead of mucking up the rest of the gov
Maybe Dave Cam should concentrate on banning offensive material like this instead of mucking up the rest of the gov
Yes, because the Sun has millions of readers because of it's excellent journalism and insightful columns right?
Take away page 3 and that 'news'paper's primary appeal is dead and burried.Original post by chlobofro
It's hardly degrading if they chose to have their pictures taken. Men are posing topless in a lot of magazines I read. It's hardly harmful for someone to see a pair of boobs. Jeez. Nanny state!
Yeah, u tell her girl.
Original post by PortfolioManager1
Yes, because the Sun has millions of readers because of it's excellent journalism and insightful columns right? Take away page 3 and that 'news'paper's primary appeal is dead and burried.
Take away page 3 and that 'news'paper's primary appeal is dead and burried.I think you misunderstand its appeal greatly. Page 3 is obviously part of it, and that's why it's there, but it most certainly isn't the best-selling paper in Britain because people are buying it just to gawk at P3.
On a slightly unrelated topic (though still relevant to the general theme of sexism), I refuse to believe that women are 'degraded' in modern day society. They have freedom to choose, freedom to vote, freedom to associate (or not to associate) and freedom to be successful. Sure, there are instances of sexual harassment/intimidation but laws protect their rights and no nanny state will solve the imperfections of humanity. Women have freedom to prosecute those who unjustly harass them (and freedom to not associate themselves with sexist male chauvinists).
The political freedom and legal equality is there. It is attitudes that are the problem and no state can control the minds of people and it should not attempt to force its subjective moral values on others; this discrimination simply does and will continue to exist.
The political freedom and legal equality is there. It is attitudes that are the problem and no state can control the minds of people and it should not attempt to force its subjective moral values on others; this discrimination simply does and will continue to exist.
Original post by HannahBannanah
In the sun they have page 3 topless girls and on the sun website they have girls entering the competition to be a page 3 girl, and viewers rating their pictures. I think its degrading of women and should not be allowed. Why is it in these magazines when little children could see them advertised in shops or laying aroung their house? I wont even get started on lads mags, but not newspapers! I think this should be made illegal who agrees?
No it shouldn't. This is a liberal society, and the accusation of degradation in this context is too weak for it to carry legal weight.
I don't like it and I don't buy the paper. Children go to school and are educated on how to treat people, furthermore their parents should be educating them too, so it doesn't matter if they see this. Then again, I don't particularly think the sort of softcore porn magazines you find in shops should be on the shelf, I just think their should be an age limit, and like alcohol shops should be allowed to ask for ID if customers look under a certain age.
You can try and discourage girls from participating in this- as they will be losing any self-respect, but you can't force them to stop doing it.
Most girls just feel threatened by it, I think. Of course there are girls who genuinely think it's wrong, but from experience with my boyfriends and my friends and their boyfriends suggest to me that it's a jealousy thing. Girls don't want boyfriends/potential boyfriends looking at other naked girls, irrelevant of whether they will never meet them/forget about them a minute later.
Most of the time it's really hypocritical as well, I personally have fancied guys in films/on the street, but I feel awful when I find out my boyfriend does the same. Pretty ridiculous I admit!
So yeah, I think that that is why so many girls have problems with it.
After writing this I feel it's pretty irrelevant haha...
Most of the time it's really hypocritical as well, I personally have fancied guys in films/on the street, but I feel awful when I find out my boyfriend does the same. Pretty ridiculous I admit!
So yeah, I think that that is why so many girls have problems with it.
After writing this I feel it's pretty irrelevant haha...
Original post by Tommyjw
It being in a different publication is not different, it is the exact same topic, the same subject about the same talking point. It is the fact it is so 'widely viewed' that botheres you.
Which just shows how insecure you are.
Whatever the hell your 'standing for', women's right or whatever.. you would be doing it for everythinhg.. every small nude picture in the back of a games magazine, every FHM magazine.. every single thing. Yet you seem to just pick page 3 girls .. why? Because your a jealous, insecure and unintelligent girl who lacks the common sense to come to terms with changes in life.. and lacks the common sense to see things from other people's point of view.
Kids can watch porn so easy these days it is nothing to see a page 3 girl. The first few 'wonder' years i remember discovering all this stuff, and we had watched full on sex and open legged pictures, page 3 was nothing. There is no reason to try and say these pictures some how harm children who view it, that is such a ridiculous and outdated view. Get with the times.
Which just shows how insecure you are.
Whatever the hell your 'standing for', women's right or whatever.. you would be doing it for everythinhg.. every small nude picture in the back of a games magazine, every FHM magazine.. every single thing. Yet you seem to just pick page 3 girls .. why? Because your a jealous, insecure and unintelligent girl who lacks the common sense to come to terms with changes in life.. and lacks the common sense to see things from other people's point of view.
Kids can watch porn so easy these days it is nothing to see a page 3 girl. The first few 'wonder' years i remember discovering all this stuff, and we had watched full on sex and open legged pictures, page 3 was nothing. There is no reason to try and say these pictures some how harm children who view it, that is such a ridiculous and outdated view. Get with the times.
Indeed, I'm deathly insecure. I look at those pictures of women and bemoan my flat chest, narrow hips and adam's apple.
If you think the only reason a person can disagree with you is because they are 'jealous, insecure and unintelligent' (let alone female), then it really doesn't seem as though you've attempted to engage with the opposing view.
My view is that the type of publication makes a difference. It's not about readership figures, as I said earlier, it's about the association. I find it amusing that you say I lack the common sense to understand your view, and then invest so much in wrongly explaining my view back to me.
My point is that having such images in a national newspaper (which is supposed to be an informative and respected publication) promotes and establishes the view that women are merely objects to be looked at for sexual pleasure. Whether or not such things ought to be allowed in a separate publication is a separate question. It's nothing to do with thinking that page 3 is the single most harmful image to children, or whatever other misunderstandings you may wish to make.
(edited 13 years ago)
Original post by HannahBannanah
In the sun they have page 3 topless girls and on the sun website they have girls entering the competition to be a page 3 girl, and viewers rating their pictures. I think its degrading of women and should not be allowed. Why is it in these magazines when little children could see them advertised in shops or laying aroung their house? I wont even get started on lads mags, but not newspapers! I think this should be made illegal who agrees?
Ugly threadstarter is ugly.
Original post by dreiviergrenadier
My point is that having such images in a national newspaper (which is supposed to be an informative and respected publication) promotes and establishes the view that women are merely objects to be looked at for sexual pleasure..
My point is that having such images in a national newspaper (which is supposed to be an informative and respected publication) promotes and establishes the view that women are merely objects to be looked at for sexual pleasure..
This is where your wrong and your view differs from the majority of people.
Seriously, are you like 100 years old or something? this view has been so outdated it's unreal. Women are becoming almost exact on equal rights arguements, no woman is forced to do such glamour modelling.
The women who DO do it, have said MANY times that it empowers them, makes them feel good about themselves.
I don't see any girl complaining about topless guy celebritires everywhere saying theya re viewed as sexual objects, it is exactly the same thing.
Your opinion really is in such a minority yet you seem to think your speaking for all the women out there or something.
Original post by IPlayThePiccolo
Original post by IPlayThePiccolo
who reads the sun anyway??
It's only the biggest selling newspaper in the UK
Original post by fluteflute
It's only the biggest selling newspaper in the UK
you read it don't you
Original post by IPlayThePiccolo
Original post by IPlayThePiccolo
you read it don't you
I was it in it
Just don't buy it if you don't like it. The women choose to have those pictures taken and you can choose to buy it. Simple as.
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