The Burkha Controversy - Now Sikhism

This TSR poll seems to show that most people are in favour of banning the kirpan. I'm sure you wouldn't be best pleased if the local chav was carrying around a sword with him.


Who cares if they are allowed to wear the hijab. That's like saying Sikhs are allowed to wear Turbans so it doesn't matter if we ban the kirpan.

Your hypocricy is unblievable. Either support the ban of both or the ban of neither. You are clearly prejudiced against Islam.

[EDIT] Oh and because you keep bringing it up I would also like to point out that wearing the kirpaan is not considered compulsory by all Sikhs just as the niqab isn't considered compulsory by all Muslims

I repeat, what planet are you on?

Should guns be permitted by law afterall if someone wants to use it a law isn't going to stop them. What about drugs and just about any other contraband. If the authorities reprimand those who carry weapons then they will be reluctant to carry that weapon, thus relieving them of the oppotunity to use it when the situation arrises.

100 abstentions is a pretty big deal tbh, 3 or 4 would be a non-issue. I'm not arguing to ban people from wearing a hat, so if you have BDD which means you're insecure about your head/hair you'd be allowed to cover it before you leave the house. Why should I respect the law if it's a stupid one? If they voted in favour of a ban on hats or skirts by a similar margin would you say the same thing? They're not required by any religion (it's not even compulsory in Sikhism) and depending on what interpretation of Islam you follow, you might think the niqab is compulsory. The fact that some other countries have a dress code doesn't justify the French following suit. In some Arab countries the hijab is banned but you said you'd be opposed to a similar move by the French.

Feel free to point me to those Kirpan massacres.

Feel free to point me to those Kirpan massacres.

I refer you to the post I made after that one. Please read the whole thread before posting.

You said "I repeat" as if you've addressed me or a prior point I have made then tell me to read a post you made after that, none of which appear to be relevant. Go away.

Frankly yes. I think properly licensed, law abiding people should be allowed to possess firearms for their protection. I also think most soft recreational drugs should be legal.

Also i dont know how many times i have to say it. Someone hellbent on causing harm to another is not going to be phased by some minor weapon carrying offence. The laws on carrying knives and other weapons have become increasingly strict over the past two decades, yet armed crime has not gone down, infact it seems to have increased. Why is that?

Unlike the niqab/birqa the compulsion of the kirpan is not disputed. It is true that Sahajdhari (non baptized) Sikh's do not wear it because they do not follow the 5 k's.

I don't see why a Sikh individual wouldn't be able to keep a small, dull ineffective Kirpaan which posed no more a risk than a pair of safety scissors.

In order to be allowed to caryy the Kirpan, I think a Sikh must be obliged to disembowel at least one chav a year with it.

The terms Sikh and Chav are not mutually exclusive - What if you allow a Sikh Chav a Kirpaan

Massacre? I think you may actually be from another terrestrial world or at least on a drug called Charlie Sheen, But check the edit in my OP for more news stories about kirpan-related attacks.

That isn't the problem, however the types of swords which are used are effective and can easily kill someone, as you can tell from the news stories posted in the OP.

Do you even read the sources you post? One of them was a drug fueled attack on a housemate near their actual house. What makes you think he wouldn't have used any other knife or weapon to carry out such an act?

And well done, you've managed to find 3 incidents only one of which elicits the use of a common Kirpan. There's years between these incidents and I don't recall any of them receiving significant coverage. Why on earth are you trying to make out as if there's some sort of epidemic here? Please stop trying to invent a problem because it agitates you and the your questionable idea of hypocrisy.