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Reply 41
Original post by Stefan1991
Why does it make a difference that they're family members and not make a difference when they're the same sex? Please explain how it's "totally different".


So you follow the sheep and believe whatever everyone else wants to believe? Think about it. Why are you really against it?

The question is, why wouldn't they find it acceptable? Since there's no rational explanation it's quite clearly bigotry and prejudice. The deformed children argument is obviously not why you think it's wrong, so what is it?

I did answer that, I said I'd be comfortable with it. Why wouldn't I? Why wouldn't you?

And if you don't actually have a logical reason for why you think it's wrong I find that quite worrying, there must be something wrong with you to believe such bizarre things.



Look the fact is im not going to be worried because unlike you there are millions of people that know its wrong. Obviously theres more to a family than having a relationship with one of em, its unlike a traditional family relationship, it can affect a person especially a child involved in it living in his own house if it happens like that. Also starting a family is more risky, Homosexuals cant they can adopt though and they still have families to speak to instead of thinking of them as partners in the case of incest relationships. Same sex or not, you can still have a relationship, where as with incest relationships, it will cause family problems as I cant see anyone agreeing. and really how can you say the deforms is not why I think its wrong? Id rather see healthy children born and not ones which have to grow up to know who their parents really are. Like I said, it would affect my relationship if I found out and had to see family members (sisters/brothers etc). Why dont you ask the millions around the world surely their reasons will outweight the ones who think its right.
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Reply 42
Nope, never.
Reply 43
Original post by 123-ABC
Look the fact is im not going to be worried because unlike you there are millions of people that know its wrong.

:facepalm:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum
"logical fallacy"

Original post by 123-ABC

Obviously theres more to a family than having a relationship with one of em, its unlike a traditional family relationship, it can affect a person especially a child involved in it living in his own house if it happens like that.
What do you mean? I didn't mean a child having a sex with their father, I meant two adult persons, for example two brothers, or brother and a sister, having sex. NO ONE can say there's anything wrong with that.

Original post by 123-ABC

Also starting a family is more risky, Homosexuals cant they can adopt though and they still have families to speak to instead of thinking of them as partners in the case of incest relationships. Same sex or not, you can still have a relationship, where as with incest relationships, it will cause family problems as I cant see anyone agreeing.
How would it cause family problems :s-smilie:? And how does that make it wrong.

Original post by 123-ABC

and really how can you say the deforms is not why I think its wrong? Id rather see healthy children born and not ones which have to grow up to know who their parents really are. Like I said, it would affect my relationship if I found out and had to see family members (sisters/brothers etc). Why dont you ask the millions around the world surely their reasons will outweight the ones who think its right.
So you can't think of any good reasons? You just assume there's a good reason out there somewhere. How ridiculous :lol:

So if deformed children is the only reason you believe incest is wrong, you are okay with brother on brother? How about brother and sister using contraception?

I guess you think "deformed" couples shouldn't be allowed to have sex either, aswell as women over 40. They have exactly the same likelihood of producing a child with a birth defect. So can normal couples.
Reply 44
Hmm define immorality and normality?

In some cultures it's seen as normal to marry your first cousin.
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Original post by Stefan1991
:facepalm:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum
"logical fallacy"

What do you mean? I didn't mean a child having a sex with their father, I meant two adult persons, for example two brothers, or brother and a sister, having sex. NO ONE can say there's anything wrong with that.

How would it cause family problems :s-smilie:? And how does that make it wrong.

So you can't think of any good reasons? You just assume there's a good reason out there somewhere. How ridiculous :lol:

So if deformed children is the only reason you believe incest is wrong, you are okay with brother on brother? How about brother and sister using contraception?

I guess you think "deformed" couples shouldn't be allowed to have sex either, aswell as women over 40. They have exactly the same likelihood of producing a child with a birth defect. So can normal couples.


I'm not an expert on evolution so may be wrong but wouldn't the fact that incest produces deformed children mean that it's been programmed into us over millennia that it's a bad thing?
Reply 46
Stefan1991

What do you mean? I didn't mean a child having a sex with their father, I meant two adult persons, for example two brothers, or brother and a sister, having sex. NO ONE can say there's anything wrong with that.


Well it does happen, brother and sister when they are kids and even child having sex with father, it still happens, its still incest, your trying to say just brother and sister, brother and brother is okay, im saying between any family members is wrong in general.

Stefan1991
How would it cause family problems :s-smilie:? And how does that make it wrong.


Do you even read what I said? Im not going to write it again. It still a negative effect of Incest.


Stefan1991
So you can't think of any good reasons? You just assume there's a good reason out there somewhere. How ridiculous :lol:


No I dont assume, I know people will have there reasons. I have already stated some reasons.

Stefan1991
So if deformed children is the only reason you believe incest is wrong, you are okay with brother on brother? How about brother and sister using contraception?


Exactly, so if they use contraception how they are going to have children/ start a family without the risk? and no Im not okay with brother on brother.

Stefan1991
I guess you think "deformed" couples shouldn't be allowed to have sex either, aswell as women over 40. They have exactly the same likelihood of producing a child with a birth defect. So can normal couples.


No they should be allowed to have SEX, at least they arent in incest relationships. and Like I said what if the child grows up to find out about who his parents are and doesnt want to even know them? yet again cause of incest which lets not forget is illegal, illegal stuff = wrong and no they dont have the same likelihood of having a deformed child.

Im not going to argue anymore. In my opinion it is wrong, like many others think. Its never going to be legal/accepted, anybody can say its right but thats the truth.
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Original post by Stefan1991
That's not really an answer....


It was an insensitive question.
Reply 48
Original post by 123-ABC
Well it does happen, brother and sister when they are kids and even child having sex with father, it still happens, its still incest, your trying to say just brother and sister, brother and brother is okay, im saying between any family members is wrong in general.
Any reason why though? Or are you just prejudiced?

Original post by 123-ABC

No I dont assume, I know people will have there reasons. I have already stated some reasons.
I see, you are a victim of the Bandwagon effect.
So there are some reasons why it's wrong, but you don't know what they are, but they definitely exist and will prove you right... right.

Original post by 123-ABC

Exactly, so if they use contraception how they are going to have children/ start a family without the risk? and no Im not okay with brother on brother.
What's wrong with brother on brother? :s-smilie: Is this because you're homophobic? They can't make children so what's the problem?

Original post by 123-ABC

No they should be allowed to have SEX, at least they arent in incest relationships.
Then why shouldn't incestuous couples JUST be allowed to have sex?

Original post by 123-ABC

and Like I said what if the child grows up to find out about who his parents are and doesnt want to even know them? yet again cause of incest which lets not forget is illegal, illegal stuff = wrong and no they dont have the same likelihood of having a deformed child.

:facepalm:
Illegal doesn't equal wrong, who told you that? I can think of plenty of things which are illegal, and again, aren't wrong. That's a terrible argument.

Why would a child not want to know who his parents are? That doesn't even make sense.

Original post by 123-ABC

Im not going to argue anymore. In my opinion it is wrong, like many others think. Its never going to be legal/accepted, anybody can say its right but thats the truth.
How is it the truth when there is no rational reason? Wou say it's because it's not legal or accepted, neither was homosexuality... but you don't think that's wrong. How can you be so logically inconsistent and still think what you're saying makes any logical sense? :facepalm:

Basically you are one of those people who would have been vehemently homophobic in the 50s, but now attitudes have changed, you've jumped on the bandwagon.
Reply 49
Nah but that's probably just because none of them are especially attractive. A cousins alright and I'd screw them if drunk and horny.

Incest of others is a major turn on though. I mean come on who wouldn't want to **** two sexy identical twins? Such a bloody turn on! Or a hot mum and daughter threesome/ dad and son threesome. If they're hot then the incest factor is just an added viagra.
Reply 50
Any reason why though? Or are you just prejudiced?



Might aswell just forget what I said.. and just reply with this all time:s-smilie:

I see, you are a victim of the Bandwagon effect.
So there are some reasons why it's wrong, but you don't know what they are, but they definitely exist and will prove you right... right.


I see you made a thread on this, and most people disagreed. Just go and read through them again.

What's wrong with brother on brother? :s-smilie: Is this because you're homophobic? They can't make children so what's the problem?



Im not homophobic there is a difference between sleeping with same gender and family member, but you dont seem to understand that.


:facepalm:
Illegal doesn't equal wrong, who told you that? I can think of plenty of things which are illegal, and again, aren't wrong. That's a terrible argument.


Well why are they illegal then? name some illegal things which you think are right??? or not wrong.


Why would a child not want to know who his parents are? That doesn't even make sense.


Maybe I didnt right it clearly enough, what I meant was if they grow up to find out that they are the child of an incestuous relationship, not like it and never speak to the parents again?

Like I said there is a difference between both of em and I dont have anything against Homosexuality, I do against incest but if people want to do that then really I cant do anything, but I dont like it.

Basically you are one of those people who would have been vehemently homophobic in the 50s, but now attitudes have changed, you've jumped on the bandwagon.


Like I said im not homophobic. And really would you be in an incestuous relationship? If no then why if you seem to think its not wrong?
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Reply 51
Personally, I don't think incest is morally wrong because you can't choose who you love. It's very taboo. I believe it's against the law mainly for biological reasons. In which case, I think they should illegalize (is that a word?) first cousin marriage because it's costing our healthcare system.

That being said, I really do think parent-children incestuous relationships are quite disturbing. That's a child you have brought up and nurtured, how can you imagine them in a sexual way!?

Edit: In no way am I attracted to my sister, my parents or my cousins. I just think people are too quick to yell: Incest is wrong without really thinking about it.
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Reply 52
I don't understand how anyone can live with their parents and sibling and not be very, very annoyed at their habits and antics let alone this.
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I've never thought/felt anything like that towards my own family, but enjoy erotica of the taboo nature, incest included. Not really father/daughter stuff though, I find that quite disturbing personally to think about and not a turn on. (I'm a girl)

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