Is fair that top unis accept internation students over uk students?

International students often get lower grade requirements.

Really? That's interesting... I guess I really don't know much about this topic- just wanted a bit of distraction! So did you get on a course in the end. Are you italian? If so, can you tell me do many english students study in Italy? And do they need a high level of italian?

I'm prepared to believe it, just saying in my case it definitely wasn't like that at all.



Yeah I got two offers in the end and I'm starting at Newcastle in September
I'm actually English, but my parents decided to move to Italy so I went through the Italian school system... It was ok, but I can't help thinking if they'd stayed in the UK things would be a lot easier for me now (student finance is being horribly complicated at the moment).
English people who study in Italy usually come through Erasmus style programs, just because it makes more sense economically. There's no such thing as a student loan in Italy, and the fees are among the highest in Europe (one of the reasons I decided to apply to UK unis), so it gets far too expensive for people who already live here, let alone for those who would come here just to study. The only place were there's a high percentage of foreign students is the Università per Stranieri in Perugia, and that's specifically for foreigners.

There's a quota. No one's "stealing" any places from domestic students. I have heard this argument so many times and most of them end up being thinly veiled excuses for racism.

Newcaslte! Well done! That will certainly be a change from Italy... Thanks for your thoughts on english students studying in Italy. The only reason I ask- and yes pot kettle black I know- but before applying to University I did look into studying abroad in Europe and they didn't make it easy! Again it was finance, accomodation, course fees, language requirements, applications--- from my experience it seems England is more welcoming to foreign students than the rest of the EU! I went for unis with good ERASMUS reputation instead, so I had the option of studying abroad.

I think you probably know why that is , because uni lives through International fee !!!!!!

I am an international student and I'm doing A levels, i wanted to come and study here since i was 5 years old because i always wanted to be a lawyer. I did my gcse's and i got quite high grades, that's why they accepted me in the courses i chose, no for being an international student, besides i hasd to pay for only one year 5.000£, i work on tuesdays, fridays and saturdays in a coffee, and usually baby-sit twice per week, so then i could pay for it and i also study full time.
I've got b in psychology, b in law... whereas lots of guys don't do anything, get low grades, don't work, only drink and stuff... and u say it is more fair, to allow them to go to university? seriously and the u say, that ur a not racist ahahah don't make me laugh.

Just pointed out the mistakes in your English.

Oh and the parents of the British students going to university in Britain have mostly paid taxes towards the universities and once the students have jobs they'll be paying taxes too. You haven't.

They get a lot more money from international students, and they need money to run, so I don't see what's unfair about it.

Errmm again No this isn't true. (so many people seem to believe this) Home students and EU students are subsidised by the government, international students are not. So the difference between their fees and home/eu fees are funded by our taxes.
Which is why home fees are going up but international fees are not.

Trust me, I have friends in a lot of Italian unis, from Pisa to Bologna to Bocconi, and I still haven't figured out how the italian uni system works I think you made the right choice!

international fees are different depending on the university as the set them themselves and the international fees at some university's are much higher than the combination of what home students pay and the government subsidy meaning institutions that can charge more and still have many international applicants do infact make more money from them.

I see what you mean the fees for International students at Imperial are really expensive. Im guessing that is the case with most Universities in the top 10. Supply versus demand pushes up prices. I think that is unfair, but then I imagine it reduces the amount of international applicants applying therefore reducing the intake, if they do actually base their admissions on merit that is. if UK students had to compete with the rest of the world for places hardly any of them would get in.

Perhaps that's the consequence of having a world renowned university. If you market yourself to the world you've got to expand your admissions to accept more international students.