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inverse of the exponential

Why is the inverse of ex=logeX e^x = log_eX and not logeex log_ee^x.
From a general theory point of view, an inverse function is such that f1(f(x))=xf^{-1}(f(x))=x

so if f(x)=exf(x)=e^x then the inverse function is loge(x)log_{e}(x) since then f1(f(x))=loge(ex)=xf^{-1}(f(x))=log_{e}(e^x)=x
Reply 2
log(e)e^x = xlog(e)e = x.1 = x
This is clearly not the inverse of e^x!

Sketch e^x and lnx - you'll see that they are a reflection in y = x, which means that they are the inverse of each other.
Reply 3
Original post by AnonyMatt
log(e)e^x = xlog(e)e = x.1 = x
This is clearly not the inverse of e^x!

Sketch e^x and lnx - you'll see that they are a reflection in y = x, which means that they are the inverse of each other.


thats true, im still reading the second post, although after i went away to think i realised that logeex log_ee^x can't be the inverse.
Reply 4
Original post by ForGreatJustice
From a general theory point of view, an inverse function is such that f1(f(x))=xf^{-1}(f(x))=x

so if f(x)=exf(x)=e^x then the inverse function is loge(x)log_{e}(x) since then f1(f(x))=loge(ex)=xf^{-1}(f(x))=log_{e}(e^x)=x


Unparseable latex formula:

f^-^1(f(x))=x

? How is this the same as
Unparseable latex formula:

f^-^1(x)=x

and is it meant to be?
Original post by Core
How is this the same as
Unparseable latex formula:

f^-^1(x)=x

and is it meant to be?


It's not the same, and it's not meant to be.
Reply 6
Original post by ForGreatJustice
It's not the same, and it's not meant to be.


thankyou i was trying to make it the same in my mind and it was confusing me.
Unparseable latex formula:

f^-^1(f(x))=x = f^0(x)=1(x)=x

?
Reply 7
So this is from the functions chapter isn't it, So if I try to do the opposite to exe^x I will end up at logex log_ex ok then
how about this
Unparseable latex formula:

f(x)=e^x, f^-^1(x)=log_ex, ff^-^1(x)=x

, opps i dont think ive dealt with functions that turn x into a power of something, but il think it over in my head and try to make sense of it, il post my thoughts, please say if they are correct.
(edited 13 years ago)
Reply 8
Apply
Unparseable latex formula:

f(x)= e^x, ff^-^1(x)=x

so the
Unparseable latex formula:

f^-^1(x)

is a function that maps ex e^x to x x alright i get it now.
Unparseable latex formula:

ff^-^1(x)=x

because f(x)=ex f(x)=e^x making
Unparseable latex formula:

f^-^1(x) = f^-^1(e^x)

in
Unparseable latex formula:

ff^-^1(x)

and logeex=x log_ee^x = x as log logex log_ex is the function of
Unparseable latex formula:

f^-^1

as to why this function qualifies as the inverse, is it a case of as long the I use function when acting on another function gets me back to x then this function (the one being applied) is the inverse of the other function (the one being acted upon)?
(edited 13 years ago)
Original post by Core
Unparseable latex formula:

f^-^1(x) = f^-^1(e^x)




This isn't what you mean, surely?

But the rest of the post seems fine, I think.
Reply 10
Original post by ForGreatJustice
This isn't what you mean, surely?

But the rest of the post seems fine, I think.


what i meant by that was in the composite function
Unparseable latex formula:

ff^-^1(x)=x


after applying f(x)=ex f(x)=e^x you then apply
Unparseable latex formula:

f^-^1(x)=log_ex

only in the case of the composite function x x becomex ex e^x
so you have instead of
Unparseable latex formula:

f^-^1(x)=log_ex

we have
Unparseable latex formula:

f^-^1(e^x)=log_ee^x

but this is only in the case of f(x)=e^x.
I read your post, but I don't actually know what you're trying to say, or if you even saying anything. The point is the composition of a fucntion and it's inverse gives you the input argument, in this case it is x.
Reply 12
Original post by ForGreatJustice
I read your post, but I don't actually know what you're trying to say, or if you even saying anything. The point is the composition of a fucntion and it's inverse gives you the input argument, in this case it is x.


The point of the post was to explain to you what i meant by
Unparseable latex formula:

f^-^1(e^x)

i was saying that this was only in the second stage of the composite function
Unparseable latex formula:

ff^-^1(x)=x

, i wanted to clear up any confusion you had about my post.
Ok, well f1(ex)=loge(ex)=xf^{-1}(e^x)=log_e (e^x)=x

Are you fine with it now, or is anything still a problem?
Reply 14
Original post by ForGreatJustice
Ok, well f1(ex)=loge(ex)=xf^{-1}(e^x)=log_e (e^x)=x

Are you fine with it now, or is anything still a problem?


No im fine with it now thank you.

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