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Original post by Gemma :)!
I'm so glad nobody on here actually listens to you. You're arrogant, selfish, opinionated, prejudiced and, not that you'd think it judging by your opinions of yourself, pretty uneducated. Not academically, maybe, but you have no idea about REAL people who lead REAL lives.

For you, if it isn't in a textbook, it isn't real. I don't want to hear from you again, because I really do find you that annoying. Don't bother replying.


^^^^true
Original post by nulli tertius
But I thought you said older was better :smile:

Westminster 1838 and 1992

Imperial 1907 and 2007


Not always.

Age =/= prestige
Original post by im so academic
Not always.

Age =/= prestige


Thank you
Original post by The_Lonely_Goatherd
In before "Oxford and Cambridge". The amount of self-deprecation, lack of confidence and self-hate at Oxford (and I presume Cambridge too) can be quite scary :s-smilie:

Yep. I worked in oxford for 2 year and knew a lot of the students and I have never known so many people with such low self esteem. It was sad because some where also the most talented people I have ever met.
Original post by Organ
I don't quite understand why you are so obsessed with individual univeristies and relative prestige - there are various reasons people end up at different institutions - you remind me of one of those people who seem to think the choices they make on ucas will decide their entire future, and that the place they spend three years studying will override any future efforts in life. Plently of succesful and bright people go to what you percieve as lesser universities - the founder of B&Q went to Solent, MPs have gone to Leeds Met and one of the most famous lawyers in the UK (Mr Loophole) graduated from Trent. There is more to somebody's makeup than the choices they made at 16,17,18! I understand you are obsessed with certain universities, but viewing everybody through the narrow prism of university destination is blinkered and pointless - at the end of the day, everywhere is simply bricks and morter.


Of course going to a good university does not mean you will do well in life. Of course going to a relatively bad university does not mean you're ****ed. I'm sure there are people who have come out well after graduating from London Met.

But I think it's fair to say that some universities are better than others, right? And generally speaking the students at the top universities will be better than ones at the lower universities - academically speaking, right?
Original post by Gemma :)!
I'm so glad nobody on here actually listens to you. You're arrogant, selfish, opinionated, prejudiced and, not that you'd think it judging by your opinions of yourself, pretty uneducated. Not academically, maybe, but you have no idea about REAL people who lead REAL lives.

For you, if it isn't in a textbook, it isn't real. I don't want to hear from you again, because I really do find you that annoying. Don't bother replying.



Original post by nerimon18
ISA got told :K:


Original post by im so academic
Not always.

Age =/= prestige


*ISA back pedals furiously*
Original post by Scribblet
Rose, do you ever get any Cambridge people acting superior/ looking down to ARU students? I could imagine that being frustrating.


I've had one or two - not my friends that go to Cambridge, just random students. Then I found out one did land economy. :rolleyes:
Original post by TheSownRose

Original post by TheSownRose
I've had one or two - not my friends that go to Cambridge, just random students. Then I found out one did land economy. :rolleyes:


What's wrong with Land Economy?
Original post by Folie
I'll be honest, I am one of those Oxford rejects planning on going to Durham. And obviously I did want to go there very much - if I'd got an offer from them I would have accepted it in a second. I'm not going to claim Durham is better academically either, however what I will say is that, in retrospect, going to Durham might actually be the better university for me personally to go to. I know that I can get stressed over always wanting to perform best etc, and that if I don't go out and socialise I can start to feel quite bad. Oxford quite possibly would have brought out the worst in me in that respect, so possibly for me, Durham is the better university. Perhaps when they say this, what they actually mean is that it offers them the better experience?

(I'm not saying that nobody at Oxford has a social life, manages the stress well etc obviously - only that some people would find this difficult. I know that some people have an amazing time there and for them it's the better option in every respect.)


I think in a lot of people, there is that aspect. But that is actually once they get there and realise that, actually, it all worked out for the best anyway.

I'm talking about people who get rejected while they're still doing A Levels, and convince themselves that they never wanted to go to Oxbridge for X reason and that Y University is so much better anyway.

Don't misunderstand me, I don't think Oxbridge is the best for everything. I think Imperial and others are better at specific courses, like Engineering etc, but when people apply to Oxbridge, some are applying purely for the prestige and the fact that they had worked themselves up to going to Oxbridge before they even knew other universities existed.

Those are the kind of people whose egos cannot take the rejection and thus justify it by continually bashing it and saying they never wanted to study there anyway.

Most people, like yourself, will realise that when one door shuts, another one opens, and that they can make the most of the opportunity anywhere, but some, like those mentioned above, can only deal with it by slagging it off.
Original post by im so academic
What's wrong with Land Economy?


Nothing inherently, it just doesn't give you the grounds to feel superior.

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Original post by Trapezium
Ouch, to be fair to her, it's other people that build up that reputation of her, not her herself. She mostly actually makes reasonable posts, just expressed a bit poorly. A year ago I'd have agreed with you but you're being ridiculously harsh, the vast majority on TSR like her now, and rightly so.


Well it's not just this post, she was commented on something else I said yesterday as well so, to put it politely, I had "beef" with her anyway.

Original post by dentistry1
*ISA back pedals furiously*


Lol I love the way that just under my post it says "I'm So Academic has deleted this post".

Tbh it's not about getting one over on people, it just does my head in when I give my OPINION (as this is what a forum is all about) and then get people telling me that my opinion isn't allowed.. particularly when ISA wrote in another post that it annoyed her when people said the top unis had the most arrogance, and I was actually supporting her post..

But never mind I've asked her not to reply so fingers crossed we can just avoid each other's posts in future!!
Original post by im so academic
What's wrong with Land Economy?


It has the reputation of being Cambridge's most lightweight degree. Geography has a similar reputation at Oxford.
Reply 113
In my A Level History class there are two other students - one is firming Cambridge and the other is firming St Andrews, and the teachers went to Oxford and Lancaser respectively. I have a massive inferiority complex and I am constantly reminded in every lesson they're more intelligent - and it shows in their work in class. I only scraped my A at AS, whereas they both have high As, and this further instills in me that I'm utterly crap in comparison to them. They're both self confident individuals going to better institutions than I and I hate being in the lessons quite often because of it. I suppose I feel because they all went/are going to top ten universities and I'm not a part of their 'inner cirlce' (which is pretty much not existent). Yes, I know it's pathetically weak, but I'm probably one of the most self depricating people in existence. :tongue:

I suppose my point is that despite what some of you have said on here about arrgoant students going to lesser universities, that isn't always the case. Okay, I'm hardly firming a bad university (Nottingham) but those in ex-polytechnics aren't all going to be these arrogant meatheads who think they're God's gift, and I'd assume some of them probably have something of an inferiority complex about where they study too - not that they would deserve to feel such a way. I can't imagine where you go to university has that much of a bearing on how arrogant you are. Then again, who am I to say, and who is anyone to say indefinitely? Unless you've been to all of these universities you can never really make an informed judgement.
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Reply 114
Original post by im so academic
Of course going to a good university does not mean you will do well in life. Of course going to a relatively bad university does not mean you're ****ed. I'm sure there are people who have come out well after graduating from London Met.

But I think it's fair to say that some universities are better than others, right? And generally speaking the students at the top universities will be better than ones at the lower universities - academically speaking, right?


I would imagine so. That said something like 45% of Oxfords intake are private schooled - I am sceptical that 45% of the UK's brightest minds somehow ended up in private schools. I think a lot more than solely academic aptitude causes people to end up at certain universities - a variety of pressures - school, social class, econonomic background and yeah academic aptitude. I doubt for example if i hadn't come from a stable, middle class background that I would have offers for medical school. If you see what I am trying to say - a bright student from Surrey at a private school and a wealthy background may end up studying chemistry at Oxford, an individual of the same aptitude but from a disadvataged background and went to a comprehensive in Tyneside might end up studying chemistry at Nottingham Trent - both are achievements in their own way.

I don't really find these attitudes in mainstream life, but on this website - people seem to be treated like plebs or scum for attending certain universities or doing certain degrees.
Original post by Katie678
This thread is really scaring me I was looking forward to Durham.Now I am scared everyone will look down at me because I am a working class girl.

Especially after I read this article!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/mortarboard/2010/sep/29/elite-universities-clash-of-cultures


You'll be fine. Remember that the loud arrogant ones are the ones that get noticed, not all the quieter ordinary human beings.

Durham has quite a large proportion of students from the North which is not generally where the rahs come from.

I would stick with St Aidan's as it has a lower proportion of independent school students than some colleges such as Hatfield, St Hild and St Bede, Castle.

Join societies for anything you enjoy doing or any sport or activity that you fancy trying out and you will soon meet people with the same interests as yourself, regardless of which sort of school they went to.
Original post by toasteh
In my A Level History class there are two other students - one is firming Cambridge and the other is firming St Andrews, and the teachers went to Oxford and Lancaser respectively. I have a massive inferiority complex and I am constantly reminded in every lesson they're more intelligent - and it shows in their work in class. I only scraped my A at AS, whereas they both have high As, and this further instills in me that I'm utterly crap in comparison to them. They're both self confident individuals going to better institutions than I and I hate being in the lessons quite often because of it. I suppose I feel because they all went/are going to top ten universities and I'm not a part of their 'inner cirlce' (which is pretty much not existent). Yes, I know it's pathetically weak, but I'm probably one of the most self depricating people in existence. :tongue:

I suppose my point is that despite what some of you have said on here about arrgoant students going to lesser universities, that isn't always the case. Okay, I'm hardly firming a bad university (Nottingham) but those in ex-polytechnics aren't all going to be these arrogant meatheads who think they're God's gift, and I'd assume some of them probably have something of an inferiority complex about where they study too - not that they would deserve to feel such a way. I can't imagine where you go to university has that much of a bearing on how arrogant you are. Then again, who am I to say, and who is anyone to say indefinitely? Unless you've been to all of these universities you can never really make an informed judgement.


Obviously I don't know you hugely well but self-confidence can be a huge barrier to academic achievement and I'd be inclined to think that your scraped A might say more about your self-confidence and how that affects you, than it might about your actual potential/capacity to score well :smile:
Original post by im so academic
Of course going to a good university does not mean you will do well in life. Of course going to a relatively bad university does not mean you're ****ed. I'm sure there are people who have come out well after graduating from London Met.

But I think it's fair to say that some universities are better than others, right? And generally speaking the students at the top universities will be better than ones at the lower universities - academically speaking, right?


I have always wondered why you seem to dislike London Met more than any of the others...
Original post by TheSownRose
Nothing inherently, it just doesn't give you the grounds to feel superior.

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No, I think it's relevant in that it makes it that little bit more amusing ha ha. (Plus he won't be acting so superior when he needs to come to you because he has a problem with his eyes :tongue:).
Reply 119
Original post by tiny hobbit
You'll be fine. Remember that the loud arrogant ones are the ones that get noticed, not all the quieter ordinary human beings.

Durham has quite a large proportion of students from the North which is not generally where the rahs come from.

I would stick with St Aidan's as it has a lower proportion of independent school students than some colleges such as Hatfield, St Hild and St Bede, Castle.

Join societies for anything you enjoy doing or any sport or activity that you fancy trying out and you will soon meet people with the same interests as yourself, regardless of which sort of school they went to.


Thank you :smile:

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