Resitting 2 AS modules, still chance of London Uni?

UCL don't like it when you retake A2 modules but yeah like everyone said they probably won't mind retakes for A2.

Is this for 2012 entry? I'm applying for next year which other places are you gonna apply to?

This thread might be useful in terms of UCL: http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1274355

Apparently they changed their rules, lots of new hoops to jump through, no retakes at A2, must take exams at a certain time, etc. I suggest you read the .pdf attached. And if in doubt, contact them.

As an aside, I'm completely agreeing with the others on this thread- don't go to a uni for medicine because of "prestige" they all teach the MBBS, and all must teach it to a good standard. I wouldn't block off the other London Unis- you may find that Kings, St Georges, or Barts will take retakes, and are much more suited to what you want in a course.

oh good

yeah 2012, i'm not sure yet, probably cardiff and leicester... keele sounds good too. also thinking of kings. what about you?

i was told that universities like oxbridge, UCL manchester etc. were harder to get in to and had more of a "prestige" (which is not the reason i want go by the way since i'm not interested in any of the others, the course sounds really good and i want to go to london). it doesn't really matter it's just what my college tutor calls them i can edit it out if you want.







no not for the actual degree, i also like cardiff and Leicester, it's just I want to be in london and the course sounds good for what i want to do like UCL having really big dissection and the SSCs etc. most people have a preference.



do either of you know the answer?

I like the idea of staying in London so I'm gonna try for UCL and Kings at the least... Got an Imperial open day next week so I'll see how that goes and if I like it or not BSMS sounds good too, I went there at the end of year 10 for a chem camp and loved the uni of Sussex

I'm just getting reaallyyyy worried about BMAT and UKCAT shiz!

Also if it was a case the more prestigious universities being "harder to get into" than statistically places like Peninsula and BSMS and Leeds receive more applications per place than some of those you mentioned (certainly true for Oxbridge).

This means approximately 0 because the standard of the oxbridge competition will likely be higher. Many very good but not super incredible applicants will be put off just because of the potential for it being a wasted slot. Universities like Peninsula with a reputation for giving low offers would tend to attract people not as academically strong as that.

This means approximately 0 because the standard of the oxbridge competition will likely be higher. Many very good but not super incredible applicants will be put off just because of the potential for it being a wasted slot. Universities like Peninsula with a reputation for giving low offers would tend to attract people not as academically strong as that.

What a load of rubbish. Frstly Peninsula now makes it standard offers at AAA which if my memory serves me correctly is in line (at this moment in time) with most of the other universities if not all of them with the exception of Cambrdge who ask for A*AA.

I had a profle good enough to apply for Oxbridge. Applied to Oxford, got interviewed didn't get an offer. I wouldn't say it was a wasted slot at all. If I wasn't good enough for consideration I wouldn't have got past the BMAT/pre-interview screening and Oxford unlike Cambridge interview very few applicants for Medicine.

But as we have said time and again academics alone are not sufficient to see you through Medicine.

Yeah, they do as of right now. Guess when the admissions stats you are quoting were taken? And the reputation for being hard to get into won't just scare off people with sub-stellar academics, it will scare off people who don't have amazing work experience etc etc. I'm not really sure why I have to argue that oxbridge attract strong candidates tbh.

Oxbridge have a mega reputation especially cambridge for quite frankly not giving a **** about work experience .... someone i know got into cmabridge last yr for medicine without a single piece of work experience, name another med school that would let you in without any work experience. PMS wouldnt!!!


Cool story bro but "will tend to attract less academically strong candidates" is not the same as "will only attract less academically strong candidates". How many people with or expecting to get ABB would apply for Oxford within the last 20 years? How many would apply for PMS when they were giving ABB offers?

Lets face it, PMS wouldnt have stood a chance if it came out and started to ask for AAA straight off, also every other med school bk then asked for ABB including imperial etc etc.
Peninsula have built up a reputation pretty quickly, especially when it comes to clinical skills ... that cant be said for oxford.

Tbh oxbridge for medicine these days is declining so much, they use to be the best and use to be the hardest to get into ... they arent any more and people are realising that it doesnt make a slightest difference going to oxbridge and that many other med schools offer more updated and intuitive courses that ultimately produce great doctors.

Sure. But that doesn't mean Oxford is less competitive to get into just because it has slightly fewer applicants per place than Peninsula, which is what you were arguing. The quality of applicants matters when you're talking about competitiveness, and it will be higher for Oxbridge. I'm not ripping on Peninsula, sure you're getting a great education, so chillax; just pointing out what you were saying was misleading.

Are you at med school, applying to med school?

People outside of medicine would think oxford is the best, but people inside the medical circle know that oxbridge isnt the best.

And how can you say the quality will be better applying to oxbridge when so many who get in there dont get offers from other med schools.

"I never said they attract less competitive candidates, i said that all med school have equally competitive candidates."
yeah that's why you went on about people who get into oxbridge and then get rejected from everywhere else.

NO, i said i demostrating that not everyone who gets into oxbridge will get offers everywhere, they are exactly the same as any other med school!!

"I am trying to make the point that all candidates are equal, and what may be a good candidate for one med school wont be for another."
that's simply not true. not all candidates are equal, and if one school asks for work experience + interview skills + 3 As and another asks for all of the above but ABB then guess which is going to attract academically weaker candidates?

No where asks for ABB, and realistically it doesnt work like that, those that still ask for AAB have other areas which you have to do really well in, like sheffield and the UKCAT.

"Here you go VaVe Sig on here:"
...one person who got into oxbridge, had 2 rejections and then WITHDREW from notts? not the evidence i was looking for champ.

Amazingly i cant remeber every single name down that i ever saw. It was an example that i came across recently.

"There are med schools out there which have much higher entry requirements in certain areas than oxbridge ... Bham wanting 7A*s now changing the cutoff to 9A*s"
you do realise this proves my point, right? i wasn't just talking about oxbridge, i was making a general point about the nature of competition stats. applications for birmingham will now look "less competitive" because fewer people apply. that doesn't mean it's easier to get into! it means it's harder because there are fewer but STRONGER applicants! not a hard concept. the only reason i can think of that you guys are arguing with this massively obvious principle is because you both go to/got into peninsula and object to my initial example.

No not at all, because you were going on about how oxbridge attracts stronger applicants. All other medical schoold attract applicants that are strong in the area that those med schools look highly upon. Bham -GCSEs, Sheffield, Manc, Barts, Newcastle - UKCAT, BSMS, Peninsula, Manc, Sheffield, Newcastle, Glasgow, St georges - Interview, UCL - BMAT (essay section), Cambridge - BMAT, Southamptin - Those who arent good at interviews.

But again you think they are stronger than other applicants, they ARE NOT!!! They just have great GCSEs, but may have **** everything else ... doesnt make them stronger, makes them suited for applying to Bham.

Im trying to stamp out the naivity that so many people have!

"I use to think the same thing as you, but you soon realise the real medical world when you actually apply!!"
I have applied, and got an offer!!

Where have you got into then? Im sure your one of those stronger applicants! Did you get all offers?

I think you just need to re-read what I wrote and think about it a little, to be honest it seems like you're arguing over nothing. If you want to talk about naivite, to me it seems naive to assume that someone with 10A* is going to have worse BMAT interview skills UKCAT etc etc on average than someone with 6Bs and a U.

"Where have you got into then? Im sure your one of those stronger applicants! Did you get all offers?"
Newcastle GEP. Still waiting on other offers but I got interviews on my other applications, except possibly Warwick. Why? I don't think I'm a particularly amazing applicant, and I didn't apply for Oxbridge, like I said. Just trying to point out the obvious fact that just because one school has 4 applicants per place and another has 5, doesn't mean the second one is always less competitive like the other guy was implying!

BOLD ^^