Homosexuality encouraged in schools.

But it isn't normal. It's not wrong, it's just different. It would be difficult simply because of the biological factors. How do you explain gay sex to a child for example? THAT would be utterly confusing, and best left until they were a lot older. Whereas hetrosexualality is easier as you can see that humans were meant to function that way.

Because they may have a hard time understanding the mental aspects of it as well.



At an older age you could but at five it would be difficult, especially as you can't evenm use reproduction to help kids understand why. I'm not saying reproduction is the sole purpose of sex, it's not, just you don't want to be going into vast amounts of detail when the kids are young.

You don't need to explain sex to a 5 year old. You just tell them that (random kid) has two daddies because they love each other, just as (random kid) has two mommies cause they love each other. I really don't see the problem. And for you to judge it as 'not normal' well its been around a hell of a lot longer than you have.

Why would you need to use reproduction to explain sex? People, straight and gay, have sex for pleasure as well. Why not just tell them that?

I'm really not seeing your reasoning here.

Because at five, kids wouldn't understand sexual pleasure and stuff would they?

But in a typical family, you have mum, dad and a child/children. Call me old fashioned, but that's how I see it. Again I'm not saying there's anything wrong with single parents or whatever, just that it's not usual. I still think it would be confusing for them to understand, I know I would have found it really weird trying to understand how someone could possibly not have a mother figure or a father figure. I still do tbh, and think how confusing it would be for the child of the gay parents.



It's not even because it isn't the majority, it's because humans weren't originally designed to have same sex relationships. I don't think it would, there are plenty of things that are not normal but aren't wrong either. Maybe normal isn't the best word to be using. The harm it will do is lead to a bit of confusion, and it could underpin the values of the traditional family. No I don't as I believe it's not a choice it's something you are.

Because at five, kids wouldn't understand sexual pleasure and stuff would they?

But they ask about it. I knew what sex was from about 6 or 7, 5 isn't that far off. Don't you think the mental aspect would be difficult to understand? For example, you have different bonds with your mum and your dad. How could you have two mums and not a dad? Would one feel like the mum and the other the dad? Would they both feel like mum? Would neither?

It isn't normal but it isn't wrong either.

Erm, well no that's why you explain it to them.

I can't understand why you're willing to explain sex in terms of reproduction but not for pleasure. I've always known humans have sex for both reasons.

I do think you hold a very old fashioned traditional view but it is a lot more common than you think for a child to be raised by a single parent or even by their grand parents

When you was growing up did all your friends come from the traditional mummy & daddy + child set up? I'm just curious as my experience was somewhat different. Maybe we are of different generations but I had quite a few friends from single parents and I have to say it never confused me. As i child if you are introduced to something or told that something is how it is then you generally do not question it or become confused. Confusion only happens when given two conflicting ideas, (i.e homosexuality is not normal, homosexuality is normal).

Saying that humans weren't originally designed to have same sex relationships is beyond the point. The biological side of the argument is completely irrelevant. If you tell a child about Bill and Bob who got married and they say will they have children or how will they have children then you can easily answer with one my earlier points and the fact that the child would ask such a question means that they are more than likely old enough to understand the answer. To talk about evolution and how the success of any species relies on their ability to reproduce is obviously way beyond the point as it is 5 year olds we are talking about.

The same one as you. No it isn't. It may be in some areas, but it's not changing that much. Obviously there are more step parents and things now, but it honestly hasn't changed a lot. There's still more married families than single parents.

Well as a gay man that wants to adopt, i assume both me and my partner would be both maternal and paternal. I don't think it would be difficult, your thinking it would be difficult because you didn't see it as a child. If a child was used to it at a young age then they would view it as no different from having a mum and dad.

Though on a side note i always wondered who would answer when our kid would shout 'dad!'

That's an interesting point about that the child would be used to it, I hadn't actually considered that. What about when they come into contact with other families though and see a typical mum and dad, do you think it would be confusing for the child?

But it is changing. Again, to deny the facts is just being naive.
I think its around a quarter of children live in single parent households now. While it is obviously still a minority, it is large enough to call it "usual" IMO.

Without sounding too stalkerish or judgmental, I think your upbringing has sheltered you from a lot of the "real world". I hope you don't take that the wrong way, and feel free to say I am wrong, but that does seem to be the case with quite a lot of things.

As you said though, it's still a minority. It's not 'usual', but not unheard of either.

Nah I don't take it the wrong way, in some ways I would agree with you. I've had a very traditional upbringing, and there are some things that I am (or was until recently) unaware of. I've always known about gay people though.

A lot of them did, there were a few single parents and step families, but a lot of the time it was mum, dad and one or two children. I guess it depends where you've been brought up and how you've been brought up. I think the mental aspect is the most confusing. As I said to another poster, you bond differently with your mum and your dad, so if you have tow mums, what's it like? Is one mum and one dad? Do they both feel like mum? Are neither of them mum? etc.

Surely by making it seem normal we encourage children to treat gay people normally?

Surely if being gay is biological then you cannot encourage it?

i'm not clicking that ****

I normally agree with your posts, at least in part, but being gay isn't biological. Therefor should not be tought about.