Leeds Met will not charge £9000, but £8,500 fees

Not one single fact in there.
Good job on googling btw.

You gave a rubbish source. Any website offering advice on entering a certain proffession, or applying for degree's in general, are going to tell you you need to do the best you can in order to succeed.
Unfortunately, this is not true.

Come back when you have a few more years, and real university experience, under your belt

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-news/local-news/2011/03/29/liverpool-john-moores-university-to-charge-maximum-9-000-fees-100252-28425528/
It just gets better and better. They say if they don't charge max they will have to close down.... well by charging max they are going to close down anyway as very few people are going to pay 9000 to go to JMU.

So helping to provide one of the largest growing industries in the UK, if not the world, a better understanding of how to increase its sustainability and more importantly its health and safety standards (among others) is worthless?

Last time I checked, making sure the appropriate steps are taken to protect people from harm was far from worthless.

Not everyone can get better grades. No matter how hard they work.

I do see your point

If Leeds Met were still charging less than £3k I wouldn't have a problem at all! I just think it's a shame if, in the future, someone graduates from a lesser university with a very high level of debt but is restricted in terms of employment and career prospects because they went to a uni with less of a reputation than others - as I said, uni rep can close a lot of doors/career options. I might then think my degree had been a waste of money.

A lot of people doing your degree didn't need a degree 10 years ago. I'm not attacking your degree, but that's the fault of the government and the NHS(for nursing that is). In accounting, you need qualifications to get where you want, but degrees filter out the mass amounts of people wanting the job. The same applies for computing, and my degree(part of computing). At the moment, I could technically go for the qualifications route, but I can see myself needing a degree in around 5 years time, because of the fact that you need a degree for pretty much every professional job now

Before, you could just work your way up. Now, companies either expect you to know everything first or they can't afford to train you

Firsty, a degree doesn't always have to relate to the career you want to do. Just having a degree is enough to get your foot in the door. (obviously not for being a doctor etc etc). Someone can do Law, and not fancy pursuing a legal career.

Secondly, it isn't pointless. You questioned the worth of going to a place like leeds met in comparison to not going to uni at all. In reality, as long as you get a decent mark (1st or a 2.1) in a decent course (which History and Law are), then you ARE in a better position than someone who didn't get a degree full stop.

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My UG degree was in psychology, and I'm now doing a PG diploma in nursing.
I don't believe it's necessary for people studying primarily vocational subjects to have a degree (like nurses, although I'm in two minds about this)

Wait, since when did you NEED a BA in Events Management to do that?

I never said that it was needed.

The point I'm making is that by having more professionally accredited people active in the industry, the standards of factors such as health + safety and sustainability are bound to increase with them, its more a case of what skills and awareness a degree brings to the industry.

I'm talking mainly large events here as my background is commercial music festivals.

A continuing professional development scheme is being sought after with regards to this, so by entering into a formal qualification route at this stage could future proof my job prospects, even if it isn't a standardized requirement at this moment in time, as at the end of the day, what is a degree if not an investment?

I just think its hardly fair to say that its worthless, as it quite clearly has significant worth to both the industry's skill base and to those looking to break into the sector.

My original point was that given what I've said above, Leeds Metropolitan University currently offers the best prospects for this and the department is currently regarded as the UK Centre for Events Management.

I couldn't give a **** if it were the UK Centre for Underwater Basket Weaving, it doesn't change my opinion of it.

£27,000 for a JMU degree? No thanks.

You forgot to factor in living costs, Oxbridge will never have you now

OK, give me some hardcore evidence that BA Events Management is a worthwhile degree, as opposed to anecdotes.

I couldn't give a **** if it were the UK Centre for Underwater Basket Weaving, it doesn't change my opinion of it.

OK, give me some hardcore evidence that BA Events Management is a worthwhile degree, as opposed to anecdotes.

I couldn't give a **** if it were the UK Centre for Underwater Basket Weaving, it doesn't change my opinion of it.

True. But I think the surplus income from higher tuition fees also can (IMO, should) be used on maintenance bursaries, not only tuition fee waivers.

It would make a lot more sense, because I think I read somewhere that the maximum value of the maintenance grant has been cut and is no longer enough to live on (if it ever was)... it seems to me that if anything, this is what is going to put poor students off, rather than high tuition fees that they won't have to pay up front anyway.

Why are there so many graduates on the dole then?

Again, why are some graduates on the dole?

That would imply they are not academically able and thus SHOULD NOT BE GOING TO UNIVERSITY.

You're telling me it's acceptable for a CCD grade student to go to university?

I don't believe it's necessary for people studying primarily vocational subjects to have a degree