TSR's 2012 Tuition Fees Tracker - how much are universities charging in 2012?

Ok I'm just going to come out and say this: What the hell is Bishop Grosstete University College?

Durham have announced 9k fees (no surpise)

http://www.palatinate.org.uk/?p=12699

Reading all the comments here about University fees and how they will be £9k (average) makes me wonder why do people bother the need to study anymore. Surely they could just buy their place at Uni and not worry about grades, etc. I would of thought that a University would take people on their achievements, not just their ability to pay. What happens if a really bright, gifted student wanted to go to Uni, but wasn't able the raise the money to go to it? Would that be it for them? And what about a not so bright student. Couldn't they just buy their way in if their parents were loaded? Surely there has to be some standards?

"Universities charging £9k per year will be the exemption. "

What a bloody farce. It seems at least 2/3rds or more are going to be charging the full amount.

What idiots actually believed that?

When I heard people were saying that I thought "bull****, most universities will do so" -through common sense.

It was expected, not a "bloody farce"; you imply as if you were surprised.

It wasn't about which universities would choose to charge the full amount if they could, it was about which universities will be allowed to charge that amount. The suggestion was that only a select few universities would be allowed to charge it.

Yeah, and why believe everything politicians would say?

It's shocking, politicians have reputations of being liars and people still believe them?

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EDIT: You even said it yourself, a suggestion. Hardly a legal document.

I did not say I believed them. After all, they are Tories and Lib Dems....scum bags and liars, as you well know.

I'm pointing out the farcical nature of this university debacle. It has been lie after lie from the ConDem sham government.

Not really, they just hideously misjudged the greed of some universities. The idea that it costs £9k a year to teach an Arts subject at an ex-poly is laughable to say the least. I can understand the top level Russell universities and even 1994 universities charging that. Ex-polys have no right to be charging that.

Not really, they just hideously misjudged the greed of some universities. The idea that it costs £9k a year to teach an Arts subject at an ex-poly is laughable to say the least. I can understand the top level Russell universities and even 1994 universities charging that. Ex-polys have no right to be charging that.

I did not say I believed them. After all, they are Tories and Lib Dems....scum bags and liars, as you well know.

I'm pointing out the farcical nature of this university debacle. It has been lie after lie from the ConDem sham government.

What ever happened to the cherished Tory principle that says the invisible hand of the market is always right?

Some Thatcherite, you are.

With the exception of Oxford and Cambridge the cost of teaching an arts degree is about the same regardless of quality of institution.

But it was EXPECTED that more or less every university will charge the full cap.

It's called having common sense.

It's no skin off my nose, personally, and as a matter of fact I was fairly certain that the government was lying through its teeth. My gripe is on behalf of those who were mislead by the lie. The lie was deliberately spun to help gain support for the fee rise among those who were sceptical.

But nothing more than I would expect from this pack of liars.

...I've never been a Thatcherite, I'm a One Nation Conservative.

Ah, a Tory with a conscience. How precious. Well, as close to a conscience as a Tory can hope to have.

I get the feeling that you One Nation Tories are never truly comfortable in your party. You must be able to see it for what it really is.

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I'd wager the cost of academics at a top university is much higher than at an ex-poly where from what I've heard from people who go to ex-polys they rely heavily upon graduates for teaching. Also the costs of maintaining their more extensive libraries would be much different. I've been to an ex poly's library (Plymouth) and it was pretty lacking compared to what we have at QMUL library and the main UOL library. Furthermore the bigger universities tend to have larger departments, which means more academics, quite a few of which may be research only, which means even more overheads to cover. I doubt many ex-polys employ academics on research only contracts in art departments.

I'd wager the cost of academics at a top university is much higher than at an ex-poly, furthermore I've heard from people who go to ex-polys they rely heavily upon graduates for teaching even at 2nd and 3rd year level, which helps on cutting down costs. Also the costs of maintaining their more extensive libraries would be much different. I've been to an ex poly's library (Plymouth) and it was pretty lacking compared to what we have at QMUL library and the main UOL library. Furthermore the bigger universities tend to have larger departments, which means more academics, quite a few of which may be research only, which means even more overheads to cover. I doubt many ex-polys employ academics on research only contracts in art departments.