Anti-Street Harassment UK- a new feminist group.

Some of the responses to this thread just show how deeply certain attitudes are entrenched in society. If this campaign focused on ethnic minorities getting shouted at in the street there would be support for it: not people saying "see this is why I hate black people, just deal with it, don't get all butthurt and start a protest group, what a joke"

To not be yelled at in the street and then suffer abuse if we dont respond?

Isnt that fair?

Oh come on ffs. If you're gonna dress suggestively and not cover up with a long coat or something when in public, we're bound to whistle and shout 'alright sexy'... it's just how it works.

Because some men on here feel that women do the same to them.

Others seem to think that this means they will be attacked for just looking at women.

I get what the group if about. But the women who founded it her experience does sound a lot more like attempted rape than something a women will get every day.

Errr where is clothing mentioned? You do realise that this happens to women regardless of what they're wearing?? I was walking home from work in my suit and it happened to me. Another time I was wearing jeans and a Rammstein shirt. Hardly slutty or provocative

Its not about clothing, dear.

Errr where is clothing mentioned? You do realise that this happens to women regardless of what they're wearing?? I was walking home from work in my suit and it happened to me. Another time I was wearing jeans and a Rammstein shirt. Hardly slutty or provocative

Its not about clothing, dear.

Because men get on with their lives.

Men get just as much abuse in life if not more.

Men have to deal with people being physically violent towards them. Men usually aren't violent to women. I'm just as scared as you if a group of guys comes towards me when I'm alone, if not more because wheras you'll get "alright love want ma number wanna come for a ride you're fit" I'll get instead "What the **** you lookin at mate?" and a deliberate shove. Yes you have the worry of being raped but I substitute in the worry of physical violence. Even the thuggiest of chavs usually won't hit a girl unprovoked and his mates would hold him back if he did, hitting another man on the other hand they have no qualms about.

Also you act like men don't get this kind of things throughout their lives. I've seen so many guys mercilessly mocked by groups of girls through highschool, I've seen more guys mocked this way than those who are exempt. I wasn't immune, I used to have girls come up to me and try and embarrass me as much as possible while their friends all stood in a group giggling. Guys that were more unlucky than me in the genepool got it alot worse than me. At least wth girls on the street the comments are because they find you attractive and not because they find you unnattractive and/or fun to humiliate.

But did I go cry and make some groupa bout it? No I grew up and ignored them.

Lol, I was responding to that person's post so my reply must be read in context (perhaps it was your post? I genuinely can't remember).

They were implying that these Feminists were concerned about males and females being equal. It seems obvious to me that these Feminists are only concerned with females, not with males.

If anything this proves that feminists aren't all about gender equality and generally don't give a **** about men, hence why they're happy to constantly demonise them.

What if the feminists alienate men far enough that they start making protest groups telling the feminists to **** off and stop demonising and alienating them? I'd join that group in a heartbeat.

I absolutely agree. I said somewhere else that feminists throw their toys out of the pram whenever they experience some difficulties but completely ignore men's problems. But you won't be able to convince them otherwise. When they say the want equal rights between men and women, it's a smokescreen, a shield to deflect acknowledgement from their real motives (getting women what they want but ignore what men need at the same time). Nowadays, I can see modern feminism for what it is and I completely ignore them. They're just a group of people that when they don't get what they want (just for themselves, they ignore what men want), they throw their dummy out of the pram.

Men experience difficulties in life as well, sometimes even from you females. But do we cry and throw our dummy out of the pram. No, we just get on with it.

Pos+ rep for you sir.

The group is "anti-street harassment" - not "anti street harassment from men". Although women constitute the overwhelming majority of victims from this behaviour, men are as entitled to the same protection offered by the group.
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Some of the responses to this thread just show how deeply certain attitudes are entrenched in society. If this campaign focused on ethnic minorities getting shouted at in the street there would be support for it: not people saying "see this is why I hate black people, just deal with it, don't get all butthurt and start a protest group, what a joke"

In my opinion, groping and harassment are bad, and women shouldn't have to feel threatened walking down the street.

But consider this for a moment, it may not be the act of groping which women dislike, could it possibly be the person doing the groping?

Nobody wants to be harassed by this guy


But if it was a good looking guy, would you feel the same


You get the idea. Attractive vs unattractive. Now I'm not saying this justifies those mens behaviour, what I am suggesting that perhaps it isn't the act itself which women dislike, rather, the person who is calling to them.

Thoughts?

This is a great point. Yes I believe harassment is wrong and all that but I cant help but believe that when an attractive guy presents the sort of behavior that women usually complain about...all of a sudden its 'romantic'.

So, when I told my partner a few weeks ago that it was quite right that men and women got the same treatment as far as car insurance went, and argued with him that if guys got higher insurance it was unfair because it assumed because of gender they would be UNABLE to do anything but be speed-demons, I was being a bad feminist? Who knew?

No woman should have to put up with harassment walking down the street, regardless of what she is wearing- but to be fair, unless it's abusive comments or actual physical contact, then the whole thing is blown out of proportion as it usually is, inadvertently reducing the credibility of genuine cases. I mean if it was to go as far as reporting a guy for looking or wolf whistling or even a comment which is not abusive or that embarrassing just for the sake of it/to make a point then that's ridiculous.