Afghan civilian killings by US 'kill teams'

It's probably a good idea to keep this kind of thing low-profile. The more people that see it, the higher chance of revenge being taken by angry individuals on nato forces or western civilians, like it says in the article.

whats everyone thinking about the whole news of the US kill team who have been going around and killing innocent civilians for their own fun in afghanistan?
I thinks its absoloutly disgusting and so immoral , im really suprised how not every single news paper is covering the story, why is it being kept so low profile? i didnt even know about it till i saw it on the afghan channel
just wnted to see what ppls thoughts are....

anone who wants to have a look at the news coverage can go on Der Spiegel newspaper and look at the full news

Link please?

whats everyone thinking about the whole news of the US kill team who have been going around and killing innocent civilians for their own fun in afghanistan?
I thinks its absoloutly disgusting and so immoral , im really suprised how not every single news paper is covering the story, why is it being kept so low profile? i didnt even know about it till i saw it on the afghan channel
just wnted to see what ppls thoughts are....

anone who wants to have a look at the news coverage can go on Der Spiegel newspaper and look at the full news

The newspapers are more interested in 'help the heroes' and all that pro-war crap. They're too busy reporting on Libya like it's some sort of a game, as if real people aren't dying.

American citizens watching fox news thinks all the countries that hate america hate them and want to kill them
are they idiots?

What right do we have to touch the american people ? We aren't going to lower ourselves to the level of the AMERICAN GOVERNMENT (THE PEOPLE THE WORLD HATE)

Again and Again, America commits crimes and blames Iran, which has hardly even commited any....

seriously, when will the world open their eyes and see America's double standards?


be careful,

This should be buried and not spoke about in the press. Deal with it internally and prosecute the offenders.

Now our mission is to give people freedoms of voting

not to mention diminishing radical groups influence in the country.

Think for a moment my friend about what would happen if the US military and coalition forces pulled out of the middle east. Israel would be completely isolated in that region, surrounded by governments who are nuclear armed and want to kill them.

Should we do that with all crimes? Or just war-crimes? You seem to talk alot about promoting democratic values yet it seems you want to limit what the press can report?

If this is true then it is a useless war. The Americans are imposing those beliefs on the Afghan people. Karzai (America's puppet) is not wanted in Afghanistan and neither are the Americans (or the Taliban for that matter).

The 'freedom of voting' is useless because:

a) The Afghans rarely turn out to vote - Even when they are not threatened by the Taliban. Electoral turnout is low (for various reasons) - no matter what the West would love to think.

b) It is being imposed on them in a short period of time. They are not used to representative democracy so it will not be effective (see this post)

c) What is the point in voting if you know Karzai is going to win anyway? He obviously rigged the last election yet the Western powers hardly bat an eyelid. He enjoys much support from the West and his (and his family's) corruption is allowed to happen.

Seems awfully contradictory to me.

Do you think the Taliban can be beaten? Troop surges have failed. Other tactics have failed. NATO has been there for almost 10 years and the Taliban are still going strong. They enjoy the safety of Pakistan and Bin Laden is still alive. The 'diminished influence' is only temporary. As soon as NATO leaves they'll be back again.

Taliban influence is still widespread across many parts of the country. Maybe not as much as before but for how long? Only as long as US troops are there. The locals even with their training by the US will not be able to fend off the Taliban. I mean look at the job the professionally trained/armed NATO troops are doing and imagine that being done by local armed peasants. So what do you propose? That NATO forces remain there permanently?

And they still do suicide bombings and beheadings etc throughout the country. Many Afghan translators/taxi drivers have been (and are being) beheaded because they work for NATO or anything simply related to the West.

Which countries would these be? As far as I am aware Israel is the only nuclear power in the mid-east. In any case if those surrounding countries were to get nuclear weapons they would not use them against Israel because they would simply be obliterated. I do not think they are that stupid.

Not really looking for a debate concerning Israel - just making a point about your post.

Make no mistake, the US can easily obliterate the Taliban. Its just much harder to kill select targets, win the hearts and minds of the people and at the same time build a government.

Not necessarily. A lot of the people working for the Taliban are doing it because they're paying them 3x the average wage. A lot of the people planting IEDs are young boys and people are joining/leaving all the time so it's not easy at all to obliterate them. If you killed all of them tomorrow it wouldn't necessarily remove the problem of the Taliban as someone could simply identify themselves as one and start it up again.

In theory America can wipe Afghanistan off the map and make it uninhabitable, if they were to use every weapon at their disposal without consideration for civilian casualties etc.

Did they show it on Ariana news?

I would be surprised if ISAF allowed it.
I haven't been able to watch Afghan TV for a few days now.



And of course it is disgusting and immoral - they are American soldiers afterall.


Why would every newspaper be covering the story? It obviously does not work in NATO's interest if this story is shown across the world as it would undermine support for the war. NATO obviously does have a strategy for increasing support for the war as was was indicated by Wikileaks so it is no surprise that they would not like this to be widespread. Look at the story of that Afghan woman whose nose and ears were chopped off. That recieved so much coverage in the Western news and was capitalised by most US news channels as propaganda to boost support for the war.

But if an Afghan's fingers are chopped off and kept as trophies - well, hardly gets a mention in comparison.



The Western news gets its stories concerning such cases in Afghanistan through military sources - i.e. NATO sources so it is predictable that their news will be based on NATO's account on events. Look at this OP.


It is to be noted however that some Western news companies (like the Guardian) have reported this story but compared to the pro-war propaganda it is miniscule.



Also you are Afghan, right?

This should be buried and not spoke about in the press. Deal with it internally and prosecute the offenders. We're playing the good guys in 99% of the time in the countries we go to, bad deeds like these don't reflect the good work we do so its unfair to release stuff like this. Anti-war folk would have a field day & use this to argue our entire military there is not justified.