For all you anti gun hoplophobes on here

How often are shootings in the UK compared to USA... Roughly 40,000 deaths in the USA... Only 42 in the UK.

But tha'ts not fair, the USA has 6 times the population... so lets divide the deaths by 6...thats still 6666 deaths. So by having the right to bear arms means that you are 15771.5% more likely to die from the barrel of a gun.

And that statistic means nothing. Good job wasting your time.

the right to bear arms means that you are 15771.5% more likely to die from the barrel of a gun.

the right to bear arms "indescriminantly" you are 1000 odd % more likely to kill somone or be killed.

How often are shootings in the UK compared to USA... Roughly 40,000 deaths in the USA... Only 42 in the UK.

But tha'ts not fair, the USA has 6 times the population... so lets divide the deaths by 6...thats still 6666 deaths. So by having the right to bear arms means that you are 15771.5% more likely to die from the barrel of a gun.

I don't think so. In America there are tons of shootings every day and that is probably because it is so easy for us to get guns. If everyone got a gun it would just turn into this big shootout that would cause even more damage.

NO! guns don't make people into killers. they're inanimate objects.

You seem to keep ignoring inconvenient truths, but they do exactly that. Anyone, especially a child, can become an accidental killer with a gun in the home. Without the gun it can't happen.

people can become accidental killers with cars, accidently set the house on fire whilst cooking, and sure a gun discharges a projectile at extreme speed with just the pull of the trigger, but just like any tool such as a knife, a chainsaw, a cooker or a vehicle,

There are some risks we have to accept in the real world, such as cooking accidents and those caused by careless use of tools. We make sure children don't drive and that all drivers are tested before they are aollowed on the roads unsupervised. But we don't need to accept those risks that have to do with weapons, so we don't.

you should grant people the freedom to take the risk themselves. You don't have to take the risk,

You have no chance at all of winning this debate in 21st century Europe; public opinion and common sense are dead against it. Even the Swiss have considered taking the guns off their citizen-soldiers recently.

Common sense and freedom prevailed and the gun grabbers lost and the conscripted soldiers get to keep their weapons in their home. Handguns are actually legal in most parts of europe with a licence but they're pretty much outright banned here just because of one incident (dunblane).

Your non-existent freedom to own a handgun is far outweighed by the public interest in being safe.

"I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery"

Thomas Jefferson

Well, Jefferson made his choice. The rest of us can make our own. Personally I prefer safe freedom, which is what we have in the UK. To describe us as slaves just because we stop you from playing cowboys and indians with real guns is risible.

gun control is an illusion though, we still have a high murder rate, just look at glasgow, gun control has also come prior to alot of genocide throughout history. I doubt it will happen in this country but this country is still a very violent one with no means of people being able to defend themselves, even cs spray is banned for civilians, and cctv is only a record of how you died, in regards to knife and gun crime, why does it matter if you are shot or stabbed? you're still just as dead and when thugs can't find a gun they stab their defenceless victim instead as he was told not to carry a concealed knife as it would make it more likely that he would die? so if someone is going to stab you would you be better off with
a. a knife?
b. nothing?
c. pepper spray which is ****ing banned!

No we shouldn't. The child that finds the carelessly stored gun hasn't been consulted about the risks it runs. The neighbour killed by the stray bullet isn't consulted about the risks of living next to a careless gun owner.

You have no chance at all of winning this debate in 21st century Europe; public opinion and common sense are dead against it.

If you want to keep and play with guns other than shotguns you will have to emigrate.

"I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery"

Thomas Jefferson