Anti-Street Harassment UK- a new feminist group.

Did she do that? If she did that, what a hypocrite like most modern feminists in general.

Of course, Captain Obvious. They are children/animals whatever you want to call them. Seriously, welcome to real world. These animals that grope any woman they see are free to roam about and do what they like. You must be naive if you don't know that those men have no morals at all and so, they feel no guilt in groping the women.

Of course, it's wrong to grope women. But they're still out there, aren't they? And that why women should stop being naive/stupid and take some responsibility to dress up sensibly to reduce the chance of being groped by these animals?

The women should take responsibility for themselves if they don't want to be abused and avoid getting drunk, half-naked, unnecessarily unconscious (from drugs, alcohol etc.) or nude in the presence of those animals.

Now, do you get that or do I have to spell it out for you?

...um no. I didn't. What I actually asked was whether he'd asked why he HADN'T got the job, because if he did and they had no good answers, yes he had a right to complain.

He hasn't actually answered that question yet, which is a shame because it was a serious question. Most large companies do have policies in place for interview feedback because, oddly enough, most large companies want you to progress and to shield themselves from charges of prejudice (be that homophobia, sexism, racism or simple nepotism.)

Yes lets convict more than 800 man a year just to make feminists happy forget that this man are innocent until proven guilty forget a court trial lets just throw away all the rights these man have and throw them in the gutter even if they may be innocent to make the feminists happy.

Hey I mean so what if there are innocent man in jail for a crime they didnt commit if it makes me feel safe Its worth it taking there legal rights away cause I feel safe.

By the way lets also not judge a woman on how they dress and the daily practices because this does'nt say anything about her character this does'nt tell us what kinda person she is no the woman accused the man of rape and it happened because she said so.

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No I do not have to answer her question it has no relevance her own personal arguement was that she should have got the job because she had more qualifications.Therefore if I have more qualifications than this lady with none that means I should get the job does'nt matter about the interview.

Since to her its only about the qualifications she can't keep changing goal posts when it suits her and she shouldnt be saying the reason she did'nt get the position was cause shes female therefore accusing the employer of being sexist.

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No I do not have to answer her question it has no relevance her own personal arguement was that she should have got the job because she had more qualifications.Therefore if I have more qualifications than this lady with none that means I should get the job does'nt matter about the interview.

Since to her its only about the qualifications she can't keep changing goal posts when it suits her and she shouldnt be saying the reason she did'nt get the position was cause shes female therefore accusing the employer of being sexist.

No, she said that after asking for feedback, they failed to give her any reasons. She asked you if you had asked for feedback. How is that changing the goalposts?

Could you please find me the statistics that support your theory that women are more likely to be sexually assaulted if dressed a certain way? Rather than playing Captain Obvious and guessing?

Rape isn't about how you're dressed. It's about power. Dressing up sensibly is not a protection against rape.

The interviewer struggled to give her any reasons. Yes lets just take this blatant feminists word for it , her own biased feminist view did'nt cause her to believe they were struggling.

Really the truth is we just have her side of the story and this anti-female interviewer is not here to defend themselves.

The interviewer struggled to give her any reasons. Yes lets just take this blatant feminists word for it , her own biased feminist view did'nt cause her to believe they were struggling.

Really the truth is we just have her side of the story and this sexist interviewer is not here to defend themselves.

Do you really think there'll be accurate samples and statistics to show how many women have been groped as well as how they were dressed?

It's called common sense. Just because something is more likely doesn't mean it will always happen. But the chance is there. You need to go out more if you haven't already and see what happens inside and outside clubs/bars at night. Where half-naked girls get lads honking their car-horn at the girls while driving past or "harassing" them by shouting "Hi gorgeous!" Many girls dressed half-naked are regularly perved on. Many girls get into clubs for free by the men outside simply by flashing/revealing "some flesh".

That doesn't mean that well clothed girls aren't groped either. But it's more likely, in my opinion of course and with some common sense, that half-naked girls are more likely to be perved on and groped. The more flesh they reveal, the more excited the "animals" are going to get. The more excited they get, the more they'll instinctively react to their emotions by perving on the girl or groping them. If you can't understand that, then you're beyond help.

I never talked about raped. So why are you bring that into the conversation? When I mentioned abuse, I meant groping or being perved on or being shouted at. Not rape.

Your both just sexist feminist people and I have exposed you for what you are you disgusting sexist's you make me sick.

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Dude, if I were that desperate to give a biased story on an internet form I would just make something up from scratch. It would be rather less work and I wouldn't have to explain large companies hiring procedures to you. Really, what exactly do you think I have to gain from lying in this? If I manage to convince someone that SOME companies have sexist hiring practices will it turn out that they're the HR director of a multinational and instantly change all policies? Will I suddenly be made the government's new equality minister?

But how does that automatically mean they were sexist? I too haven't been given feedback before. You don't see me jumping on a bandwagon that they were sexist against me. I know it's frustrating not to get feedback, but stop assuming only women face this. Men face this as well. But you don't hear us jumping on the bandwagon that they were sexist against us. You don't know whether they're sexist or not, so you can't accuse them of being sexist. End of. Otherwise, you're just making false accusations from no solid proof.

Okay, so you're just going to continue to go on "common sense" and "my opinion" rather than actual research? Really, google is right there.

http://www.usu.edu/saavi/pdf/myths_facts.pdf

I deliberately grabbed a university link so you couldn't complain I was using a feminist site, by the by. I can go further and start pulling out research papers if you prefer? I don't know which journals you have access to - I have NORA here.

And groping is sexual assault. Don't kid yourself otherwise. And it's dangerous because once someone's brain is going "I have the right to touch this person", "I have the right to have sex with this person" is only a short hop away.

You're missing the point. It's not about exactly why the man decides to grope. It's about who's more likely to excite him to do so. Imagine 2 women. One full clothed with burqas and another half-naked. Who is more likely to excite him to grope? Use your common sense. It's more likely to be the half-naked one. To think otherwise would be stupid. Or maybe you're not a male so you won't really know what I mean.

Now I'm not suggesting every woman should be dressed in burqas but dressing more sensibly can help. Like I said in one of my previous posts, that doesn't mean that fully dressed women aren't groped. But it's a lot more likely to happen to a half-dressed woman than a fully dressed one. It's all about chance. Just because something is likely, doesn't mean it will always happen. But the chance is there. Not every half-naked girl will be groped but the chance for it to happen is a lot greater than a girl clothed with burqas.

And like I said, there is not one accurate sample or statistics to present your case. What about all girls groped in all schools? What about all girls groped in all clubs/bars/pubs? Are all these girls and offenders included in the samples from your collection of journals? That's right. No.

I know you REALLY REALLY want to believe that ALL companies are utterly fair to ALL genders and anyone saying otherwise is whining, but sometimes life isn't like that.

When did I say that? I don't think all companies are fair at all. But I would not make false accusation from no solid hard PROOF. No proof, no accusation. That doesn't mean you can't be suspicious. But you can't jump to conclusions on suspicions and circumstances.

Have you not read any of previous posts to you? How many times have I told you that I have learnt about how harsh and cruel the world can be? How I have learnt to be tougher and stronger to deal with the world? Have you forgotten that? You seem so blinded by your support for feminism that you're not thinking properly about some of the things you're writing.

I don't "really really" want to believe all companies are fair. I know the world isn't fair at all. So spare me such statements.

You may have a case to believe you have been affected by discrimination against you for being a female, but there's a line between suspicions and paranoia.