I don't mean to hurt people's feelings BUT...

They should look abroad, plus if they go somewhere with no extradition treaty with the UK, they can just not pay back their student loan EVAAAAAAR

About this, do you have to become a citizen of that new country? What happens if you move back to the UK in the future?

About this, do you have to become a citizen of that new country? What happens if you move back to the UK in the future?

Some people just aren't that career minded so don't pick up on stuff that makes you employable. It's a bit of a shame I guess, but I don't think that it's necessarily a bad thing. I know at least on my part, I'd much rather chill with friends, and spend time how I want to spend it, rather than sit in on my comittee meetings or God forbid, go to one of those "networking events".

I know what you mean about the whole networking thing, I have never attended a "networking event" for probably the same reasons as you... despite being emailed by my university every day about them!

are some of the people moaning about not being able to get a graduate job just lazy?

From personal experience, the friends of mine with graduate job offers already are those who have been applying since August and have done internships, etc. Yes, they have been rejected a lot but through perseverance have got a job offer.

Other friends who moan about not being able to get a job have maybe made one application and have made very little effort in their uni years to gain employable skills (e.g. travel, join societies, charity work, etc).

Why do these people think they have a right to a graduate job?

Just got back from the pub after having an intense debate with some friends about this and wondered what others opinions were. My friends both disagreed with me and said there simply aren't enough jobs for graduates atm.

Have to say, i was sort of expecting a lot of thumbs down! (thanks for the one thumbs up though whoever that was!)

Or there are **** all jobs above London.
If you are a graduate from a real uni with a real degree you should get a job otherwise it shows the country to be severely lacking high end entry jobs and to have a very poor economy. Just look at the 1970's. If you had a degree you could guarantee a great job, where as now it is utter luck if you get a job as there are so few.

Or there are **** all jobs above London.
If you are a graduate from a real uni with a real degree you should get a job otherwise it shows the country to be severely lacking high end entry jobs and to have a very poor economy. Just look at the 1970's. If you had a degree you could guarantee a great job, where as now it is utter luck if you get a job as there are so few.

When I spoke to many of the older people at my former part time job; they would always talk about the abundance of jobs in the 70s - 90s. None of this intense 4 stage graduate job application process, just a newspaper advertisement: send CV / Covering Letter and go for an interview. I agree with the luck part, but your personality/characteristics also play a huge part in getting job regardless of academic accomplishments.

Also; what would you define as a "real university" with a "real degree?"

I think you know what he means by real! Traditional subject requiring hard work and relatively high entry standards. None of these media courses that take anyone on.

Then with universities, the russel group and the newer group of them created in 1990s. Also some of the others as some ex ploys are good in certain areas.