Girls: Do you really care about abs over big chest, shoulders, arms and back?

yes i know you care about personality over anything else but putting personality aside for a moment here.

i've spoken to girls online (albeit from other countries. mainly the USA) and they have said they care a lot about if they can see the guy's abs. they dont care much for big shoulders, chest, back and arms, as long as they can see the guy's abs. i have showed pictures of random guys who are big and strong (mostly rugby players) and have said they hate them because no abs are showing. they dont have a big belly but simply no abs are showing.

so i ask you girls this: do you only care about the abs over big shoulders, chest, back and arms?

Legs are far more important.

Abs mean nothing on a skinny guy.

so dyu prefer this



or this?



without judging the face

so dyu prefer this



or this?



without judging the face

don't really give a fig for abs, much prefer lovely arms, shoulders...SHOULDERS! and backs

so dyu prefer this



or this?



without judging the face

a perfectly toned man just tells me that he will more likely spend more time in the gym than with me.

yes i know you care about personality over anything else but putting personality aside for a moment here.

i've spoken to girls online (albeit from other countries. mainly the USA) and they have said they care a lot about if they can see the guy's abs. they dont care much for big shoulders, chest, back and arms, as long as they can see the guy's abs. i have showed pictures of random guys who are big and strong (mostly rugby players) and have said they hate them because no abs are showing. they dont have a big belly but simply no abs are showing.

so i ask you girls this: do you only care about the abs over big shoulders, chest, back and arms?

Prefer that 2nd guy



BUT tsr girls, why do you lie so much?!?!? Do you like chubby guys because they make you feel better about yourself? Or because you dont want to look shallow?


Normal girls like -


-. height (but this is not that important in most cases....just in mine)
-. abs but not disgusting veiny abs or too much bulging muscles........lean and toned like a swimmer....
-. pecs are more important than abs imo .... i dont really care about abs (muscle tits or fat tits = NO! )
-.shoulders have to be wide but there must be some distinction between your head and neck




so OP girls like a good physique but in moderation. Any girl who likes a humongous meathead is either very athletic herself which is normal or....a complete frat loving slut which is not normal. Any girl who likes ONLY skinny guys is an insecure emo or hipster. You can like skinny guys obviously.... thats what not what Im saying. But deliberately seeking out guys who have a girly hipster look even when they have a ****ty personality is weird. Girls who like fat guys are fat or in love.



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neg **** storm from the liars in 3.....2......1

a perfectly toned man just tells me that he will more likely spend more time in the gym than with me.

I am fairly toned/'ripped' and I spend zero time in the gym. I might do the odd set of press ups every now and again, but mainly it's about diet.

But if by toned you been bulky, then fair point.