Ah, so it is Ayr then. When I said "Why don't you commute to Edinburgh or Glasgow for work", you said: deliberately failing to mention that Glasgow was less than an hour away on the train. I guess that qualifies as trying to justify not commuting, wouldn't you? It's plain to see.
An Ayr to Glasgow New Deal 7 day Season is under £25. Minimum wage will give you a little less than £200 after tax, which even after your fare is going to be better than £65 a week. If it's not full time, then the jobcentre will sell you a day return for about £6-7, so you'll be in profit compared to your dole after a little more than three hours work.
Eh? Another strange response from you. So because I dont say Glasgow is closer than Edinburgh I live in Ayr, and I am not mentioning where I live to try and justify not commuting? What planet do you live on as thats one of the strangest replies from you yet.
No matter where I actually do live I have no real problems with commuting, at most uncomfortableness, if I get a job 15 miles away but have to get like 3 trains and take about a hour and a half to get there, whearas I could get a worse paid job 40 miles away and a hour on train direct I would take the worse paid job, I have no problems with that.I dont get the last part but dont know if thats because its late and I am tired, but how does 3 hours work at say £6 a hour plus £6 train fare(meaning I would have about £12 cash at that point) be higher than £65 a week or am I missing something?
So, you clearly do believe that Polish people are slackers. Polish people come to this country to work, they come because the wages are higher. I don't have to prove something that doesn't suit your prejudices, because you'd just keep on that I was making it up.
The problem with a reply like that is its taking basic ideas and then adding them togehter to make an assumption.Sure Polish people come here to work, I never denied that, I dont deny they come here because the wages are higher and they want a better life and why shouldnt they? I dont have a problem with immigration though you assume I do.
I find it ridicolous the fact that you seem to think Polish people are hard working just because they are Polish, I dont find it ridicolous that Polish people are hard workers.
Strange though that you seem to be picking and choosing things you want to "prove" so when its something you think you can get one over on me you are eager to "prove" your point, when its bringing up how you have a opinion on something and dont back it up you dont have to prove it, nice.You just said it above.
I'm sure there will be a minority that aren't, true enough.
See aboveEssentially yes, in a job such as vegetable packing, it is hard manual labour for relatively low wages, but above minimum wage, which studies have shown that British people don't like. Nevertheless, are you trying to say that someone should rather sit on their arse all day claiming JSA if they are able to get to a job where they are picking and packing vegetables in a field?
When did I ever hint that I would agree with people sitting on their ass? If someone is too lazy to do a reasonable job then they should get sanctioned, just like it doesnt matter if someone on benefits used to be a high up IT person and found work cleaning pub toilets they should take it even if they knew they wouldnt be a very good cleaner. I dont know why you would think I would think otherwise.Sure, people might say they want a job, but what they mean is they want a nice easy desk job sitting at a computer while they are earning £7-8 an hour. They'll put in for those vegetable packing jobs so they can mark them down as part of their jobsearch activity, but if someone comes up to them on the street and says, "how do you fancy a day packing vegetables", they'll say "no thanks."
Sure, as if the jobcentre found out they would get done for benefit fraud or have their benefit cut down by the amount earned and/or made to fill out loads of forms and likely sign off for a day, I have actually had an advisor tell me just before christmas not to apply for christmas work as it would mess up the benefits only been signed off short term but I said I wanted a Christmas job.Nope. Of course I accept the concept that if nobody took a job because the going rate was too low, then the wages would go up. But if you are on JSA and you are offered work at minimum wage then your choice is to either take it, or sign off.
But if Polish people want to work picking vegetables for minimum wage, then that is their choice, and yes it generally shows that they want the work more and work hard at it.
It gives them every right. After all, you sign your claim to say that you will "lick the backside of the jobcentre" although in not such colourful language as you have put it.
When you said
and not once throughout this thread when I have been re-iterating the need to commute if there are no jobs locally, have you ever said said that you were applying for jobs outside of your home town. In fact all you said to my response about commuting from your town was that Edinburgh was too far.
And did I have to, just to please you? If so why? Its likely that if I did mention I lived closer to Glasgow you would of just made another comment about how I only lived X distance from it so should check there, but you seemed to do that anyway.
Distance for me means less than ease of commute, if it was a 90 minute journey straight through which was 50 miles away then thats better than 90 minutes going 20 miles and changing trains 3 timesThey are fairly easy hoops that the jobcentre make you jump through, but all you have come up with are excuses why you can't comply with them, excuses why you can't apply for jobs, excuses why you can't commute. In fact, I'm not sure there are any excuses left. To be honest I doubt anyone here is surprised the jobcentre sanctioned you.