Guys: Taking a hint...

but suppose they aren't cryptic???

for instance, when they know you have nothing to do, you know they're free and you mention A LOT well wouldn't it be nice to have some company.... how nice it'd be if we could meet up...

how much more obvious and uncryptic could it be??

This concerns both of your statements; women confuse the hell out of me

speaking as a 20 year old virgin who has never kissed a girl before, i am unsure if i should make a move on a girl unless she gives obvious hints or tells me outright that she likes me.

i dont want to appear desperate or be slapped in the face for making a move if she didnt want me to. i stay on the side of caution and if i think she might or might not want me to make a move, i will wait until the signals are more obvious.

but suppose they aren't cryptic???

for instance, when they know you have nothing to do, you know they're free and you mention A LOT well wouldn't it be nice to have some company.... how nice it'd be if we could meet up...

how much more obvious and uncryptic could it be??

As the title suggests, what's up with you guys and taking a hint??

If it's not "please leave me alone" or "i really want to see you" no matter how hard we try, you guys never seem to pick up on a hint.....

Is this down to just bad hint giving skills, or just an inability to recognise them???

i know that but all i'm saying is how blindingly obvious does the hint have to be before it's recognised?

In that situation why don't you just send a text back saying "sorry but I am not interested in you"?

Well if you are being that uncryptic and obvious, why not just say outright that you would like to do something? It's hardly much of a shift and it makes it easier for your partner to understand.

I did precisely what you describe above for valentines day (we were not quite together), got annoyed that he didnt take the hint and after he found out that I was miffed asked me why I didn't just clearly say that I wanted to do something for valentines day.

Sometimes you just have to bite the bullet and say what you mean.

As the title suggests, what's up with you guys and taking a hint??

If it's not "please leave me alone" or "i really want to see you" no matter how hard we try, you guys never seem to pick up on a hint.....

Is this down to just bad hint giving skills, or just an inability to recognise them???

But when they are sending texts that are not too forward but you know they like you, just asking about your day etcetc wouldn't it be a bit out of order and look presumptive/arrogant to just bulldoze right in with 'mate **** off i don't fancy you' ?

i would but like i've mentioned previously you start to feel a bit of a nag cos it's always me that suggests doing something, and as i'm sure you'll know sometimes it's nice from it to come from someone else and not always you...

****ing s and tsr...We do not represent the population fo male people on this earth (as hard as we try. )
Also, speak to the guy you're having a crack at not us, all we do is get pissed when a like you comes on and has a go at us..

This concerns both of your statements; women confuse the hell out of me

And yet you can't assume people can mind read, because for the most part they cannot.

i don't see what difference it makes who suggests it. both people should be capable of saying no if they don't want to go.


though he should make some effort of course

As the title suggests, what's up with you guys and taking a hint??

If it's not "please leave me alone" or "i really want to see you" no matter how hard we try, you guys never seem to pick up on a hint.....

Is this down to just bad hint giving skills, or just an inability to recognise them???

People who give 'hints' are usually people who don't have the balls to tell somebody how the situation is.

Ignoring is rude. I save ignoring for people who are out of order or are incessantly persistent. Girls use ignoring as a technique for communicating "I'm not interested in you" because they don't know how to say it. But girls invariably HATE with a passion, being ignored themselves.

Last 2 girls I've been seeing, one I dumped her the other she dumped me. When I did the dumping, I sat down with her in private, with no one else around, told her that I wanted to go back to being single, then when she fired all sorts of "why" questions, like "was it because of this..." I just answered them. A few weeks later she sent me this long email asking loads of stuff about why we had split up and I answered all those questions as well. I didn't leave any ambiguity over the fact that I had decided it was over, I wasn't trying to keep her as an 'option' but I knew she was upset about the break up so I thought she deserved to have answers to her questions.

Then it came to me being dumped but this was from a pretty short term thing (6 weeks or so). We'd been for lunch and seen each other on the Thursday, getting on fine. Talked a bit on Facebook chat on the Saturday, then that was it. She stopped answering calls, stopped answering texts and disappeared. After a few days of trying to contact her and being a bit worried about where she was, I sent her a facebook message, she ignored it, but I knew she was on facebook because she was 'liking' stuff. It slowly dawned on me over a period of about a week that she had obviously wanted to end it. I was annoyed at this because I didn't know where I stood, and I kept trying to get in touch with her because I thought something must be wrong and I didn't expect her to just cut me off after we had been speaking to each other every day for the previous 6 weeks. What sealed it was, a week or so later she was engaging in flirty facebook wall banter with her ex, so thats when I knew obviously it was up. I never heard from her again and after about a month she deleted me off facebook. Can't say it left me devastated or anything but it annoyed me that I didn't know what the situation was and I wasted a week wondering what was going on where if she'd have just said she wanted to end it I would have known the score.

God I hate people who add the "lou"at the end of their names.

da **** is wrong with you?