Virgin or non virgin, what do you want in a relationship.

It doesn't work like that for everyone though. Some people are worse on meds.

Erm no, because people don't have "BIPOLAR" written on their heads in permanent marker. She may not tell her partner she has bipolar, and why should she? It's a very personal thing.

Not all guys are like you, that's something you fail to understand. As I said, you can't pinpoint who has bipolar and who doesn't. At any given time, one in three people has a mental health condition.

Also, if I don't want to take my meds, I'm hardly going to do it because a guy wants me to. I'm not some little toy who'll do whatever a man says.

It's only awkward for him.

You're so bloody insecure lol.

Sucks to be them then, but that doesn't mean I'm going to date them.

Because people trust each other in a relationship.

Also all these problems are problems because the girl does stupid stuff, not because of a label. If he can't tell then she clearly doesn't have it that bad.

Most guys prefer less complications to more. That's why high maintenance isn't seen as a compliment. Depression, bipolar, they're diseases, chemical imbalances in the brain. You wouldn't want to date someone with a

Edit. Let me be precise. Such a woman is likely to attract the more manipulative type. Someone who sees her instability as a plus, not a minus, because he can control it.

Yes, and if I don't want to comb my hair or put the toilet seat down i'm not some little toy who'll do whatever a woman says.

That doesn't mean she has to date me because I'm a nice person on the inside. The world is harsh.

Eh, it's pretty awkward in general.

I just know from experience that a girl innocently flirting with other guys tend to lead to flings. You can call me insecure, but that doesn't mean I or a large number of guys who agree with me will want to date you.

You can date people who are secure, and who you'll find securely in the bed with another woman.

Bipolar can be controlled without meds too.

So? Just because I trust someone, I don't necessarily tell them everything. if someone doesn't want to tell someone else that they're bipolar, they don't have to.

And that's my point, sometimes you can;t tell if someone has bipolar. Oh did you also know that it's possible to have one episode of depression, one episode of mania, and then no symptoms for the rest of your life? Bipolar acts differently in each person.

So you wouldn't date someone with diabetes or PCOS either? Because it's exactly the same.

I actually judge people individually. If I like a guy, the fact that he's bipolar won't change that. I'll just do my best to help him through it and support him.

Or a nice person who loves her for who she is and accepts that everyone has flaws.

So you don't want to look nice for you? I get done up because it makes me feel good, not for the opposite sex. Again, you sound insecure.

Also, can you answer this for me then? Why do men leave the seat up? It;s clear toilets are meant to have the sear down...

More funny than anything.

No it doesn't lead to flings. I flirt with everyone, do I go off with everyone? No I don't. And I wouldn't want to date the large number of insecure males thanks.

Threesome?

This is only a problem if the undesirable consequences of bipolar disease spill out into the world. If she has them completely under control then I'm not going to notice anything.

So untrusting.

Then it wouldn't be an issue. An issue occurs when she is bipolar with you.

1. Only if she took her medication, I don't want a girlfriend who randomly dies. Dead girls are a turn off.

2. No, I want children.

All that says about you is that you don't mind a guy being bipolar. You probably have standards during dating. Like as you mention below, guys being insecure.

Eh, such guys tend to be pretty insecure. Not sure if you'd go for them. Nice guys rarely get the girls who rely on heavy flirting.

Likewise- don't you want to be fun for me, and not just a stressful annoyance? Hence, take your meds.

I sound insecure because I want a woman to try to be sexy for me. Ok. You call a lot of things insecure.

Cause pee gets on the seat then. Clearly the seat should be up.

I haven't found it fun. I was with one who said a guy raped her and got him kicked out of university. The extremes are... extreme.

Yeah, but you'll probably flirt with the secure males too. The players. And they will be very happy to have fun with you for a night.

Fun attitude.

+1 when I have rep.

I agree with everything you've said.

Which is why I said that just because she may have a diagnosis of bipolar disorder, you shouldn't write her off completely.

...you just help her through it. Anyone can develop bipolar disorder at any time in their life, as they can develop depression and other things. Someone who loves the person will help them through any issues they may have.

1. Diabetes can be controlled through diet sometimes.

2. Women with PCOS can still have children.

I do have standards. However, whether or not he has a mental health 'disorder' (I hate that word, it implies it's wrong, when it's actually just different) isn't a factor at all.

I don't tend to go for 'nice guys', I go for in between guys who aren't soppy and quiet but aren't total players either.

The thing you aren't understanding is that you don't have to take meds to not be annoying. And if a girl wants to take meds, she should do it for herself and not for a guy.

You should want a woman to be sexy ebcause it makes her feel good, not just for you. You don't own her. And where does sexy come into whether or not she's bipolar?

Look at the way a toilet is designed. It's designed to have the seat and the lids down to stop germs spreading when it's flushed.

Well good, if he did rape her he deserved it.

You can be secure without being a player. Also, players are fun for flirting and banter. Nothing more, but for flirting they're a good laugh.

Oh indeed.

If she's got symptoms while she's with me, that will make me less attracted to her.

The less loving she is towards me, the less attracted I'll be towards her. If she's depressed and continually being abusive and cruel towards me, as depressive people sometimes are, that will make me less attracted to her.

1. Sometimes. If she doesn't take her meds when it fails, she dies. That's a turn off.

2. Far less easily. It would be a big turn off. Bigger than her being bipolar.

Being insecure is just a mental health difference you don't like. There are treatments for it too.

I suspect the lover who broke your heart wasn't inbetween, given what you've said. When you meet another, you'll probably let love awaken your heart, rather than be judgemental.

You have whatever issues. You don't date yourself. Guys may find some of your habits annoying.

I don't own her, but i do want her to be sexy. If she does that for me or herself the result is the same, but I'm going to be less attracted to her if she isn't sexy. It's often easier to do things for another person.

Bipolar girls are less sexy to me, and their sexiness gets less with increasing degrees of bipolarness.

I prefer that the germs are flushed onto the ceiling than flushed horizontally to an organ I may insert into a person at some point. If you close it you're just gonna send the germs under the seat and sideways.

No, he just stalked her. She lied about him raping her, as she said.

It's a lot rarer to be secure. And those few men who are good long term prospects and exceptional at flirting are going to have a lot of choice in women. Good chance they'll already have a woman.

The players will want to go a lot further. It's a battle, and often the players will win. They have a lot of tricks, even for people in relationships.

Threesomes are fun. If that's a expectation the relationship is based on, I'll have different expectations. You're not gonna get threesomes if you never flirt with outsiders.

So you're absolutely perfect, have a sunny disposition at all times, have no down days and are wonderfully kind every minute of every day of your life, are you?

Depressed people aren't always mean, and if they are, you need to look at helping them feel less depressed. If you've never experienced it, you can't really comment.

Some women with PCOS have no trouble at all.

It's a personality trait, not a MH issue.

Okay one, he didn't 'break my heart' so to speak, he was just the only person I've ever loved. Two, his disposition changed half way through, thus when I started dating him he was an in-between guy, but he became an arrogant git at the end.

As girls may find yours.

Bipolar isn't a physical trait, you can't be 'less sexy' because of a brain chemical difference.

20% more germs are released if you don't put the seat down.

That's where you come in as the 'other girlfriend'.

No in all seriousness though, secure men aren't rare to find abouve the age of 19. Teenagers however, it's a different story.

As do I. We tend to match eachother evenly. As I said, it's a good laugh.

One guy two girls or two guys one girl?

My girlfriends have remarked on how much fun I am to care for. I know it can be an issue for the woman too, so I do my best to make it clear how much I appreciate her care, and do my best to amuse her.

Being kind doesn't excite or amuse women. With people who I have no urge to seduce I am generally always kind, but, I give women what they want, and it isn't kindness. Good banter often involves teasing a woman.

I have experienced caring for people with it, and can make them feel less depressed. I just prefer that to be a rare event when life gets too much, rather than a regular issue to deal with. I want my lover to be fun, not a drag, again.

If there are no issues, it's not an issue. It's not about labels, again, it's about the problems that result from it.

Mental health implies there's something wrong with the person, as you said.

Regardless of what labels you chose to use, if there is some feature in them that I don't like, that will make me less attracted to her. And a lot of people with loads of partners have those issues. It's emotionally taxing going through all those relationships.

So your friends didn't warn you that he had some sort of reputation? Girls generally do try and protect each other, and they can see what love cannot see.

Hence, I try to better myself. I often find that changing myself to be more sexy is quite a relief, as a lot of my less sexy traits are the result of conditioning from society rather than aspects of my personality.

I'm not shallow. I can find someone sexy because of their brain. Or less sexy.

Yeah, but not at my penis. At the ceiling.

Besides, why is it so much of a challenge for women to leave the seat up for us? Women aren't willing to do this minor thing for us, even if we do do it for her. It was this laziness that truly convinced me that it wasn't worth doing it.

If he cheated on her, he may well cheat on you. Especially if you're not willing to do stuff for him. A lot of women let themselves go after they get the man because he's theirs now. And he finds a new other girlfriend...

If they're still trying to seduce teenagers at 20+ there's a good chance they'll be a player.

The odds are stacked against you pretty hard.

Sometimes a match goes one way, sometimes another. And the best of the players will likely outmatch you.

Two girls is my preference. Since I've been with quite a few bisexual or semi bisexual girls who can pick up straight girls, it's worked pretty well.

You make no sense to me, half the time you sound caring and loving and the other half, you sound like a bit of an arse. I'm confused.

People who have suffered depression don't always have it permanantly though.

The first part, true. The point I was making is if we have two girls with bipolar disorder, they're not going to be the same. They won't react to their bipolar the same way, they'll be different, so you can't say "oh she's bipolar, that means she's automatically x,y and z". They're people too.

Not really no, but I'm generally friends with males as I find women far too bitchy. His ex girlfriend told me he was a knob but I assumed she was just bitter.

I don't understand how having bipolar can make someone less sexy. They're just the same as everyone else.

Out your penis away before you flush, it's not hard.

It's because it's meant to go down!

Women who do that are stupid imo.

I'm a teenager myself.

Doubt it.

Sounds fun. :Awesome:

Doesn't bother me...
... as long as she can make a good sandwich.

And confusion is sexy too, I find.

You see, naturally, I like to instantly answer any text, say sorry if I do something offensive, show interest in everything someone says, be honest about my feelings.

And I still am with guys. But with girls, the result is that she won't find you interesting or want you. I want to please, that's part of my personality too, so to please I deliberately be offensive, am happy to ignore, delay in answering texts, and am mysterious about my feelings.

Some do. Or have months when they're happy and months when they're sad. The more it happens, the worse.

If she's not got the symptoms I won't care. If she has only mild bipolar behaviour, it'll be far less of a factor.

To be bipolar she has to have both mania and depression, otherwise she's not bipolar, she's unipolar.

So you did have a warning. You'll probably have another warning if you do it again. You should make sure you listen.

Bad things rarely just happen.



Except they have episodes of depression and mania. Which are less sexy. Unlike most people, who don't.

Effort.

We'll have to agree to disagree. Have fun in the toilet.

I know. Which is why I make it clear to women that if they make no effort to please me then I'll probably leave them.

That's another reason why being bipolar is an issue. If she is depressed for an extended period of time she is not trying to please me. If that comes from a background of years of her being loving I'll willing to do a lot to get her back on her feet. If it's the norm for her, my love will be a lot more taxed

There are lots of female characteristics that are slightly worse in younger females than older ones- stalking potential, flakiness, ego issues. Almost invariably men still prefer younger women because your beauty more than compensates.

I rarely find that women are exceptional at the game. You can get men just by being willing. Men have to work a lot harder to get women. The best at it are very, very good.

It is.

I was once invited to do the reverse. She was a very kinky lady indeed. Liked to dress up too.

Not all women like that. I for one don't. Obviously don't be a soppy clingy mess but don't be an absolute arse to her. That's pathetic, and not the way to get secure girls. With insecure women it may work, but do you really want someone who is insecure?

So you're not prepared to help someone you love? That just makes you sound really nasty, imo.

Fair enough to some extent, but I still think your original comments were harsh on bipolar people. They're all different. If you ever meet some people with bipolar, just try to judge them based on who they are and not whatever label they have. You might be suprised.

I prefer to find out for myself, because exes say bitchy things that are often untrue, plus just because someone else thinks someone is a knob doesn't mean I will think that. Different people like different personalities. There are people out there who get on with me really well, and people who think I'm an absolte tit. So it's better to decide for yourself than to go on what someone else says. People make stuff up about others.

Actually, when someone is manic it can be beautiful. Especially hypomania.

Will do, have fun persuading women to keep the seat up.

Fair enough. I get annoyed when people aren't upfront, but if you make it clear then it's not as bad.

Fair enough, no one wants someone to be miserable all the time. If you try to help her though, she may react positively.

I don't do any of those things, so again, you can't really generalise younger women.

Not really. You can get anyone, but if you want sucessful, attractive, charming men, you have to be a lot more seductive. it's also a lot more fun.

And there I was originally thinking you were quite prudish!