What do you think should be done about disruptive students in lessons?

Research shows that 7 out of 10 teachers have considered quitting due to student's bad behaviour. 90% of which felt behaviour had got worse over the years. (2010)
it's all about behaviourial management. You can't just ostrasize people because they don't do what you want. that's too extreme and hopefully society is a bit more advanced and understanding. What's the point of the Government/charities launching all these iniatitives to help people become better people if the reaction is to exclude them. Exclusion is not on in any form.
It's about understanding these kids as individuals. They may well have learning disorders, problems at home etc. I am talking mainly from a early years perspective but people are people. Obviously this begs the question, where does the teachers role end? There isn't the time/money/knowledge for this individual approach unfortunately otherwise it would have happened by now. What has to be remembered is that kids are in school for 25% of their time so the discipline has to come from home/friends/the community too. The teachers only have certain influence.
Research shows that in actual fact fair but strict discipline is the way forward. So critisize the wrongs but praise rights. Discipline through fear tends to inhibit learning. There are several theories for this including one which suggets there are 3 parts to your brain: neo cortex (thinking), limbic (feeling) and reptilian (survival) which can be activated according to the situation the person is in. The theory is, through fear the brain switches from neo cortext to reptilian and therefore the child just shuts down and stops learning.
The point is, if you exclude poorly behaved students there will be consequences. They wont have the chance to improve and learn which in turn could potentially have harmful effects on society. It's not just about the here and now its about the future too.
Granted it's hard for those being disrupted in lessons but equally being ignorant about the situation doesnt get results either.
It's a tricky one!

I wonder if anyone here has any comprehension of what it's like to teach badly behaved kids. I know I don't but I know two brilliant teachers whom have told me about it. On the outside they may be strong but on the inside it's as tough as hell when you're dealing with trouble makers. Not even the best teachers can help them most of the time.

So what do you do? Throw them out; expel them? Yeah, because that always works right..

But their behaviour should in no way be tolerated and if they are not willing to comply then yes, they should be thrown out. It's just a waste of taxpayer's money tbh. Sure they may have problems at home but why harm other people's learning? All you have to do is listen and shut up; I see it for myself, it's sad most people are incapable of doing so.

your a waste of tax payers money.
im sorry but, you think kicking them out of school will save the tax payer money. your sadly mistaken.
what do you think theyl do once theyv been kicked out???

Deal drugs, loiter with intent and waste police time, probably.

Expulsion - no need to educate people who don't want to be, its a waste of time and is detrimental to others learning

if they don't want to learn do they really deserve to live?

Extreme but very very logical.
I hate people that are ignorant of this privilege

Education is a privilege, not a right. If you can't behave yourself like a civilised human being then why should you gain the privilege of education?

We worry far too much in this society about helping the"poor little darlings" who can't/won't behave themselves. Lets concentrate on helping the people that actually want to help themselves instead.

A good idea, but schools will not do this as they spend funding right up to what they get for the last pupil.


What they need to do is stream them, right from Year 8 (people like this never change) into their own form and should be taught seperately in every subject. They should get all of the rubbish teachers, freeing up the good ones for those who want to learn.

Wait a second, just because you do not understand, it does NOT give you the right to mess about.

You shut up and ask for help.

Why the **** should a teacher help someone who misbehaves?

This thread makes me uncomfortable.

I have been expelled from 2 institues in my school career due to bad behaviour. I am now about to end my second year of Economics at Edinburgh. Just because we misbehave in school doesn't mean we are unwilling to learn and are stupid. lots of my chav friends who were top of the class and i'd argue brighter as kids to most of the dull kids whose parents waited till they were financially rich and old to have them. But those kids got tutors, books, pushy/understanding/academic/educated/helpful parents. Whilst my friends had junkie parents who were barely adults themeselves, didn't value education, didn't take kids to the museum, didn't encourage academics and swore/got drunk/were asbolic around their kids.

I know i'm not as brainy as you guys and I know my roots are not good, clean ones - a lot of my family are on benefits, I have relatives behind bars, we live in a coumcil house etc and we aren't the most educated people but we are still human. I came under a special scheme for chavs which allowed me to access higher education, see the bigger picture and hopefully grow up to be educated and bring my kids up not to be disruptive *******s like I was. I'm sorry.

I know all you on this thread will hate me because i'm demeaning you and it was my kind that 'ruined your learning' but its true. How could I at 7/11/14 know what education could bring me or decide I wanted to behave when I hadn't been taught better? If some small coincidences and events didn't happen in my life, i'd be the type of guy many TSRians talk about 'sterilising' - education changes everything and all of you are advocating to take a disruptive child out of education?

I feel so **** right now, because i've left my rightful place, to enter a section of society that looks down on who I was born to be.

Expulsion - no need to educate people who don't want to be, its a waste of time and is detrimental to others learning

I wasn't being serious lol when u quoted me :P

This thread makes me uncomfortable.

I have been expelled from 2 institues in my school career due to bad behaviour. I am now about to end my second year of Economics at Edinburgh. Just because we misbehave in school doesn't mean we are unwilling to learn and are stupid. lots of my chav friends who were top of the class and i'd argue brighter as kids to most of the dull kids whose parents waited till they were financially rich and old to have them. But those kids got tutors, books, pushy/understanding/academic/educated/helpful parents. Whilst my friends had junkie parents who were barely adults themeselves, didn't value education, didn't take kids to the museum, didn't encourage academics and swore/got drunk/were asbolic around their kids.

I know i'm not as brainy as you guys and I know my roots are not good, clean ones - a lot of my family are on benefits, I have relatives behind bars, we live in a coumcil house etc and we aren't the most educated people but we are still human. I came under a special scheme for chavs which allowed me to access higher education, see the bigger picture and hopefully grow up to be educated and bring my kids up not to be disruptive *******s like I was. I'm sorry.

I know all you on this thread will hate me because i'm demeaning you and it was my kind that 'ruined your learning' but its true. How could I at 7/11/14 know what education could bring me or decide I wanted to behave when I hadn't been taught better? If some small coincidences and events didn't happen in my life, i'd be the type of guy many TSRians talk about 'sterilising' - education changes everything and all of you are advocating to take a disruptive child out of education?

I feel so **** right now, because i've left my rightful place, to enter a section of society that looks down on who I was born to be.

Sorry I'm not falling for this, at the end of the day, you messed about and please, don't blame your as for your actions. Why should the education system take sympathy for people who waste an opportunity?

Can you blame an 12 year old for not fully realising the opportunity?

Yes - 12 year olds are fully aware of the consequences yet still pursue to mess about.

This thread makes me uncomfortable.

I have been expelled from 2 institues in my school career due to bad behaviour. I am now about to end my second year of Economics at Edinburgh. Just because we misbehave in school doesn't mean we are unwilling to learn and are stupid. lots of my chav friends who were top of the class and i'd argue brighter as kids to most of the dull kids whose parents waited till they were financially rich and old to have them. But those kids got tutors, books, pushy/understanding/academic/educated/helpful parents. Whilst my friends had junkie parents who were barely adults themeselves, didn't value education, didn't take kids to the museum, didn't encourage academics and swore/got drunk/were asbolic around their kids.

I know i'm not as brainy as you guys and I know my roots are not good, clean ones - a lot of my family are on benefits, I have relatives behind bars, we live in a coumcil house etc and we aren't the most educated people but we are still human. I came under a special scheme for chavs which allowed me to access higher education, see the bigger picture and hopefully grow up to be educated and bring my kids up not to be disruptive *******s like I was. I'm sorry.

I know all you on this thread will hate me because i'm demeaning you and it was my kind that 'ruined your learning' but its true. How could I at 7/11/14 know what education could bring me or decide I wanted to behave when I hadn't been taught better? If some small coincidences and events didn't happen in my life, i'd be the type of guy many TSRians talk about 'sterilising' - education changes everything and all of you are advocating to take a disruptive child out of education?

I feel so **** right now, because i've left my rightful place, to enter a section of society that looks down on who I was born to be.

Yes if, as 'pooo' mentioned, your brought up in a nurturing environment, so u would know the consequences.

Anything below a level/GCSE, i found, was boring as ****. I sympathise with anyone who messes about.

I remember failing my tech (graphics) exam on purpose (well i got a D in tech and 7/8a*s), messing about and doing nothing in class. Tech had no appeal to me, i was rubbish at drawing, the teacher was a prick. Someone with no aspirations of oxbridge like you, someone who never has never exceeded, will not see the opportunity in learning the periodic table.

Yes if, as 'pooo' mentioned, your brought up in a nurturing environment, so u would know the consequences.

Anything below a level/GCSE, i found, was boring as ****. I sympathise with anyone who messes about.

I remember failing my tech (graphics) exam on purpose (well i got a D in tech and 7/8a*s), messing about and doing nothing in class. Tech had no appeal to me, i was rubbish at drawing, the teacher was a prick. Someone with no aspirations of oxbridge like you, someone who never has never exceeded, will not see the opportunity in learning the periodic table.