I met her - shes cool - I like her

you can just be really good friends... theres no problem/complications with that?

Just flirt with her lots and imply you like her. If her relationship isn't strong, you'll get to kiss her and touch her and make her feel like no man has ever before. If she likes her boyfriend, atleast she knows you want her and when the bf goes then you can get on that. If she loves him, than tough ****, nothing'll get in the way of that. Nothing should.

wont that insult her tho, that im trying it on even tho i know that she has a bf? i dont want to do that.

also how would i imply that i like her??

why would she be insulted? girls in this situation are flattered or excited. if they're serious with their boyfriend they'll let you down gently, else she'll let you carry on.

just meet up and chat and get friendly and close but when you talk to her, make lots of eye contact. this is what the rest of the world call 'chemistry'. I've talked to girls on the street, like those donation collectors, and eye contact turns them to mush, srsly. Then just mention she has really pretty lips or something. Not too pervily or crudely, just drop them in. If you're smooth, she'll giggle and blush. It's in your hands man, make it happen.

compliments and eye contact, and I thought she woulda been insulted or something, I think she may know that I like her anyway as i'm smiley around her and everyone has noticed that I like her - and shes smiley back and willing to create conversation also she was complimenting me the other day after knowing me for not so long, like I'm a (mention a school) boy me, - was you grammer stream (in like a jokey flirty way if that makes sense) i was like why you say that think i look attractive then? You come across as very intelligent (my name) *smiles*

Good because it ain't gonna happen son. See her as a friend yourself from now on, concentrate on girls who are more attainable/single!- it sounds as though you're setting your heart on mission impossible

Unless you're very lucky, or have some edgeyness about you/an addictive personality, with chicks like you're invariably gonny get friendzoned whether you want to or not sorry..

I've never come across a hottie who's considered it worthwhile to cop off with a guy like this sorry luv, what'd be the point in that?

Invariably they keep lads like this (the hanger on'ers) close, without ever taking it there, for support and the occasional self-esteem boost

Also he sounds like a relatively moral character and has made it clear he doesn't want to encourage her to have illicit relations with him, even if it were possible, which, plainly, it ain't

I, my dear, am living in the real world..

P.S. Apparently I was wrong to try to encourage you out of switching from medicine to the city - given the wreckless/mercenary nature of your (normative) comment above I now have greater confidence that you'd fit in with the self-serving IB set, you go girl!

Patronising I will accept, sexist though?

I do not profess to understand all females, however I've known/spoken to a fair few young people, male and female, over the years so I do feel able to speak from experience with a reasonable degree of authority on this matter aye

Friend zone's not that bad, just don't talk to her TOO much and maintain an interesting, elusive image.

it is ive been in it, ive slept in it, ive eaten in it, ive practically lived in it for the past 20 years, i want to get out of the friendzone with girls that i meet who potentially would be partners!!! lol , so just maintain an elusive interesting image and i can stay out of this hell hole with this girl lol.

Yh but the question is to avoid the friendzone if she ever does break up with her boyf!! Thats all im coming from here, avoiding the friendzone, its happened many times before and i dont want it to happen again!! Why should every fit girl that I meet "Inevitably" as someone so elegantly put it, should end up in the friendzone??
How does one avoid that without breaking them up, as one poster said, if i can make it happen then surely someone else could to me.