The Arsenal Society VIII

United away form this season has been really bad, thats well documented. The performance at home has been brilliant.

A winning position doesn't tell the whole story, Chelsea for example, we were hardly dominating that game, yet that goes down as a lost from a winning position.

Thoughts from the game;

RVP and Fabregas were excellent all match. Both making plays when those around them were failing to do so. Nasri was good but his finishing was obviously off. He's gone off the boil over the past month or so but there's no blame attached to him. He's still reliable and great on the ball.

Arshavin was excellent, very energetic and full of running. He found space and made some excellent chases and crosses.

Now for the failures;

The defense is awful, as I have been saying time and time again. I have absolutely no idea how anyone can say that our back four is acceptable. They are truly terrible. This season has been lost entirely by the defense. As I said at the start of the season "Arsenal are never going to have a problem scoring goals - it is the defense where the weakness lies" and it has been proven absolutely true.

Also, I wouldn't be surprised if Cohen's goal is the one that makes Fabregas leave Arsenal. I wouldn't blame him. I've been an Arsenal fan all my life and I'd feel sick to be on the same pitch as some of those wasters.

yeh i bet he was...don't you support arsenal then (good thing if you don't)

I've never really bought into reasons such as "they don't care enough"/"they're not bothered." I believe these are just other ways to say the players are not good enough. I think they cared enough out there, there was intense pressure on Bolton for the majority of the second half, only one team looked like winning it (Arsenal) but when your defence looks shakey all game, especially from set-pieces, you're always vulnerable to the sucker punch. Arsenal had plenty of good chances but they tried to score the perfect goal, it was always one pass too many or just awful finishing by Nasri.

The point I'm making is that when Arsenal lose a lead our defence gets targetd as 'shaky' and 'nervous', but when it happens to man utd they don't criticize their defence or anything.

The point I'm making is that when Arsenal lose a lead our defence gets targetd as 'shaky' and 'nervous', but when it happens to man utd they don't criticize their defence or anything.

They weaker teams in the prem go all out against arsenal but are more conservative when playing Chelsea and Man utd. if Man utd played Bolton today they probably would have won even if they play worse, the dynamics of game would be totally different

Again I posted this before todays match....Clichy is a liability... if you analyse his game properly he makes a hatfull of mistakes consistently. He has only ever had one good season and that is when Cole left. If you want to sort out our defensive issues then Clichy has to be dropped/go.

I see nobody has a sense of humour

It's the manner they have lost those leads, losing a 4-0 lead, losing a lead against 10 men, losing a 2-0 lead against your arch rivals at home, losing a 3-1 lead against your arch rivals away, etc. When it was happening to Man Utd we received criticism too, many have questioned the ability of Jonny Evans, some wanted him sold. But this was happening earlier in the season, it was a temporary crisis that we've sorted out I suppose.

I do support Arsenal. It's one of the things we have in common. He's actually on TSR

I remember my dad taking me to Highbury lots when I was a lot younger (haven't been to the Emirates ) and I remember being excited by seeing Henry, Parlour, Pires , Ljungberg, WILTTTTTTTTTTTTORD, Keown, Viera, Kanu , many other players that I could go onto the name. I want to get excited about Arsenal again - I want this team to do well ffs

There is something fundamentally wrong with this squad or team. I don't know exactly what it is but this team has just ****ed up too many times now. It's beyond a joke. We may play beautiful football but there's something missing with some of these players and they need to go. I'm not saying we need a major apocalypse to happen or need to do some major clearout but maybe this team needs to come 6th or something so they learn their lesson well. We always seem to have a plaster for every sore (injuries, the ref, some epic 90th minute penalty, defence crumble, bobble spectacle off a player and into the net). I know it's about luck and stuff - but if that's the case we must be seriously seriously cursed. (Juju - Man Utd fans? )

Some of these players have it in the them - the Premier League was ours for the taking and completely ALL IN OUR HANDS (Chelsea and Man Utd have had weakened sides - but even then I have to rate some Utd players (Ferdinand, Vidic, Van Der Sar, Park - I've always liked him cos he always seems to just run his heart out) cos even though some of their team is ****, they play as a team and as if SAF is going to flykick them all if they fail) but OH NO we ruined it - AGAIN. WHY?

Man, I love Arsenal and I always will but enough is enough

I think they should let some of us fans into the dressing room

ahh cool

i know right...those were the days mannn but we seriously lack leadership right now...we need a player to just keep everyone in check, someone like vieira and we need to stop trying to walk the ball into the net...i mean VP is the only one prepared to shoot from outside box nowadays (fabregas tries sometimes as well and unlucky not to score today)...and we need a better DM plus a better LB and maybe another clinical striker as well...apparently wenger is getting 40mil this summer so hopefully he spends all of that on quality players

and yeah they should so we can talk some sense into the players

We haven't lost a lead against a 10 man team. We've lost leads against teams when we've had 10 men (we had 10 men v newcastle), but the newcasle game is a bit of a fluke tbh. The defending wasn't bad, just 2 dodgy penalties and a good goal that the keeper almost got a finger tip to.

Dropping 2 goal advantages against spurs, hurtful as it is, they're a good team. But that's it, only 3 times have we given away 2 goal leads


What about man utd then? When they conceded 2 goals in 2 minutes against Everton (previously leading 3-1) and then nearly lost the game. Or against west brom, at old trafford, when utd lost a 2-0 lead.


I don't understand though, when it happens to arsenal our defence is terrible, it happens to united, it gets mentioned but no real criticism from the media about how crap their defence is. Do you see my point?

Criticism is due where criticism is due.

Clichy is often mistake prone but I don't think he's that bad. Just can't cross to save his life - we need a CB and someone to potentially replace clichy though

Ah man I know. I don't know why they're so afraid of shooting. The ball needs to get into the net by ANY means necessary.

£40 million I don't know if Wenger will spend it tbh

Why is it? Look at how Kos/Djourou performed against teams like Barca, it's commitment that's lacking, not ability. You can't seriously tell me that Djourou hasn't got it in him to beat Tamir ****ing Cohen to a ball. There's no need to waste to money when there's a much simpler way of improving the team.

pretty sure you won't be laughing after we beat you at home next week Ronnie and Chelsea win the league (L o L)

providing you lose to them, as well

You do realise that is 8 points given away.........................
The defence is terrible no statistics can hide the fact that we are vulnerable at the back.United defence is miles ahead in that regard.
It has been an absolutely terrible season you cannot deny that.