why don't you republicans go and move to america?

The Crown (aka the Queen) owns Buckingham palace and all of the royal estates in London and around the world.

If we ended it they arnt going to give those places up. They OWN them

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Even if we stopped giving the monarchy money and ended their rule they would still own a huge amount of land, money and assets. Nothing will change. Atleast now we get 200+ million a year thats given from the crown to treasury and all the benefits of tourism. People come to the UK, see its castles and sites because they are all real. They arnt fake like American castles or those in obsolete in france

There is so much wrong with this, that I don't know where to begin

1. Tourism - you mention people come and see castle etc b/c of the monarchy. Do you want to know how many of the Top 20 UK Tourist sites are related to the monarchy? Only 1. Is this 1 within the Top 10 even? No, its number 17 (Windsor Castle).

So much for your theory on tourism.

2. Assets - I do believe that these assets belong to the State, but are taken care of by the Sovereign. Abolishing the monarchy does not mean we do not get further income revenue from these assets.

3. Cost - Please provide me ONE single credible source (i.e. not some obscure unaccountable blog which everyone presents on this issue), which states that we get more money from having the monarchy, than we pay it. One can quite rightly and reasonably argue that it actually costs us having a monarchy.

4. Moving to America - Why should I not move to the US? B/c this is a god-damn democratic country (royals aside of course), so I have every right to express my opinion as opposed to accepting the status quo.

There is so much wrong with this, that I don't know where to begin

1. Tourism - you mention people come and see castle etc b/c of the monarchy. Do you want to know how many of the Top 20 UK Tourist sites are related to the monarchy? Only 1. Is this 1 within the Top 10 even? No, its number 17 (Windsor Castle).

So much for your theory on tourism.

2. Assets - I do believe that these assets belong to the State, but are taken care of by the Sovereign. Abolishing the monarchy does not mean we do not get further income revenue from these assets.

3. Cost - Please provide me ONE single credible source (i.e. not some obscure unaccountable blog which everyone presents on this issue), which states that we get more money from having the monarchy, than we pay it. One can quite rightly and reasonably argue that it actually costs us having a monarchy.

4. Moving to America - Why should I not move to the US? B/c this is a god-damn democratic country (royals aside of course), so I have every right to express my opinion as opposed to accepting the status quo.

Actually he has talked about seriously considering (basically said he is) running for presidency in 2012 on CNN..

Problem bro?

No he hasn't; he hasn't even formed an committee "bro", let alone then ACTUALLY winning the Republican nomination (with prominent Republicans like Rove and the GOP already against the idea).

Thus, get your facts right on this. First he needs to form a committee, then formally announce, then win the nomination and only then, can he then even think about running against Obama. Its a long way from the idiotic notion you put forward in your initial post.

1) Are you telling me Buckingham palace isnt in the top 20 tourist sites? Really...

2) No the assets do not belong to the state. They belong to the Queen. She effectively rents them out to the state for the 20mill or whatever we as taxpayers give them every year. The state however gains any revenures that comes from the Crown estate which is around 200million+ a year. The Queen owns those estates she has a signed contract with the government to rent them out. When Charles becomes King he will have a choice whether to renew it or not. If he doesnt hell take back the 7bn worth of assets and any revenues it makes.

3) Google how much the Crown gives the treasury each year.

4) Ive never said anything about moving to the US. yes you have a right to free speech

And how much does the state lose from the ridiculous tax allowances the royals are allowed on their property? And how they're free to control the businesses on that property, which they've done so inflexibly that the state makes far less on those businesses than on other businesses not on Crown land? I'd suggest watching that video I posted in response to your previous post. It's quite interesting.

Trump is a real character mate.

It would actually be fun to see him on the world stage.

I think it'd be interesting.He would probably cause world war 3(not even exaggerating here) but it'd still be fun from an observer's point of view.

I was born and bred here and this land is as much mine as it is the royal family's.

Why would I move? I love Britain, I love many things about our heritage and our society today with the noted exception of the monarchy. I have no love of America, and although it is a place I would like to visit I would rather not live there, not least because they have the wrong type of president. I would rather a ceremonial president as in Germany, where the Chancellor holds all the power, than invest a lot of power in a single office as in France and the United States.

1) Are you telling me Buckingham palace isnt in the top 20 tourist sites? Really...

2) No the assets do not belong to the state. They belong to the Queen. She effectively rents them out to the state for the 20mill or whatever we as taxpayers give them every year. The state however gains any revenures that comes from the Crown estate which is around 200million+ a year. The Queen owns those estates she has a signed contract with the government to rent them out. When Charles becomes King he will have a choice whether to renew it or not. If he doesnt hell take back the 7bn worth of assets and any revenues it makes.

3) Google how much the Crown gives the treasury each year.

4) Ive never said anything about moving to the US. yes you have a right to free speech