Child Mortality is down - this is not good news

You completely missed the point and clearly did not read what I posted.
Room is not the issues, but resources.
We do not have enough resources to sustain the current develop population for more then a few decades, let alone have enough to increase it. So unless we start culling people or master space travel, your children are ****ed.

Obviously, they on't be able to. The world population will continue to mushroom... and nature has a way of dealing with species which overconsume to the extent that they ultimately destroy their environment.

Seems pretty inevitable at this point that, well, the future ain't looking to great :/

2012 : end of terbium
2018 : end of hafnium
2021 : end of silver
2022 : end of antimony
2023 : end of palladium
2025 : end of indium
end of gold
end of zinc
2028 : end of tin
2030 : end of lead
2038 : end of tantalum
2039 : end of copper
2040 : end of uranium
2048 : end of nickel
2050 : end of oil

2064 : end of platinum

2072 : end of natural gas

2087 : end of iron
2120 :end of cobalt
2139 : end of aluminium
2158 : end of coal

Go read this: http://www.naturalnews.com/028028_rare_earth_elements_mining.html

Yeah, kiss goodbye all your 'green energy' schemes in the next 50 years.

Even if they did manage to find more, is it going to be 10,000 yrs worth? Or enough to get us through but **** over the rest of humanity?

EDIT: Wouldn't it be ironic that after all this time we are forced back to middle age lifestyle because we could not bring ourselves to control our own population - something nature does perfectly well but we deem it ok to fight against.

I read what you posted, I just think it's nonsense. We have been told that we only have 50 years left of oil until it all runs out for over 50 years now and we keep discovering more. US has huge reserves of coal, shale oil, and natural gas that we haven't even touched. And when I say huge reserves, I'm talking 100-500 years worth.

Hmm, I suppose this will be quite fun to watch. I would like this process to be made quicker so that I can witness it in my lifetime please. Otherwise I dont want to know about what will happen. I will not be there to say, 'I told you so' .

Hmm, I suppose this will be quite fun to watch. I would like this process to be made quicker so that I can witness it in my lifetime please. Otherwise I dont want to know about what will happen. I will not be there to say, 'I told you so' .

So we should continue to go down the route of dependance on oil dispite the fact that it is not sustainable? We will one day have to find alternative energy sources... be it now or in 500 years.

A stich in time saves 9... surely a gradual shift to renewable energy sources will be much easier, cheaper and more beneficial now than after 500 years of further dependancy on oil.

I just totally negged you by accident. Sorry .

I'm sure they'll find other ways to sustain us. Either way, there's not a lot we can do about it; so no real point in endlessly worrying.

I agree there should be more planning for a post-oil or post-fossil fuels future, but will just have to hope human ingenuity will thing of something, like it did after Malthus' time. Otherwise most of us will starve to death, and we're screwed and there's little we can do about it.

If there's enough coal to last until the late 22nd century wouldn't we burn all of that to keep civilisation going in a worst case? And turn some of the coal into oil to make oil-based fertilisers. Is it possible to build and maintain nuclear power stations without fossil fuels?

Though I guess that coal figure may be at current usage.

Fun to watch?

Want to be there?

Really not sure if serious...

Sure.
Why not?
Wouldnt it be fun?
The whole world is sinking, people running round crazy, people shouting at one another.... and you just sit there and laugh yourself dead.
Wow, Ima make a film out of this one.

http://www.childmortality.org/cmeMain.html


So, child mortality is coming down, more countries are becoming developed, this should be good news right?

Wrong.

We barely have enough resources to support less then a billion people in a 'developed' lifestyle, how can we possibly support more?

I am not talking just about oil, but other materials such as lithium (20 years supply left so you better start enjoying nuclear batteries), rare earth minerals which are key to electronic goods, and general power consumption. Unless we crack fusion there is no possibly way we can generate enough energy. Wind farms? The amount needed would screw up the wind patterns or completely stop wind in areas. Solar panels? They would take up such a large surface area that it would heat up the atmosphere and destroy the eco system.
The only solution I can see is that every country needs to put a population cap and reduce the worlds population by at least 90% otherwise humanity will be permanently stuck in the middle ages within 100 years.
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The reason people have so many children in undeveloped countries is because child mortality rates are so high - they're trying to make sure at least some survive.

So, even if your hysteric, psuedo-science ramblings are accurate, you should want child mortality to continue to go down for the sake of a decreasing population.

Your warning about the risks of population growth was first voiced by Thomas Robert Malthus at the turn of the 19th century. For the most part all of his concerns were discredited. Last time I flew to Nevada I could see hundreds and hundreds of miles of nothing from the airplane window. There is plenty of room for the human race to grow.

Yes so much fun people running attacking others, killing, destroying, stealing, raping total anarchy so much fun I wonder if you will find it fun if you find yourself in a situation where you have to sell your body for scraps of food.

You do not want to be around when/if civilisation gets ****ed