How can I stop paying for the NHS?

You are advocating violence against another person for having a different set of convictions.

You pull the gun, so we're done. I'm not going to pretend there is a reasonable discussion to be had here.

There doesn't need to be any violence I am not advocating violence either but if you evade taxes yes you should be punished a forceable fine or imprisonment thats how society works I am afraid.

You are

It may be that your convictions are held so weakly or else built on such unsound foundations that they might change due to circumstance, but do not assume that everybody is the same. If I contract cancer I would no more look to violence to cure me than I would religion.

What is it with you and claiming that every supporter of the NHS is a violent incarcerator? The NHS was not formed by thugs holding guns to the heads of rich people. It was implemented by a democratically elected government who acted on the wishes of the electorate. 63 years on, it is still supported by the conservative government - not just violent far-left extremists.

Anyway, regarding your "convictions", it's nice to know that you wouldn't appreciate the NHS if a loved one became ill. Perhaps if you plan to get married or have children, you should probably let your future partner know that if you're not rich then you'll happily let them die rather than see them treated by the NHS



What kind of proof are you looking for here? It's a fairly straightforward logical conclusion to make isn't it? There are many different diseases and conditions which are fatal if untreated, but curable or manageable with proper medical care. Anyone suffering from any of those conditions who is unable to pay for private treatment would die if there weren't an alternative healthcare system that treated them based on their clinical need rather than ability to pay

You really are stupid, when did I mention death lol? If you refuse to pay tax you go to prison yes, where else would you spend this small sum, you end up paying towards the NHS? No where really useful something for your own personal gain most likely, it's better to go towards the NHS and you should be made to pay it and if not punished. I don't condone capital punishment and no where in my posts did I say that. Get some sense.

How on earth can you justify sending me to prison because I don't agree with your own particular convictions? I have not harmed anyone and I have not caused loss to any other person or their property, I have merely used my hard-earnt money in a way I think is more productive.

If I defended myself against going to prison then you would persist with violence against me until I was in prison or dead. That is how it works. The police do not grant random reprieves for no reason.

Very nasty person indeed.

You haven't truly failed until you stop trying.

Starting your own business doesn't mean quitting the one you currently have, if you put all your eggs in one basket (risk everything) and fail, it's your own fault and deserve all you get.

Your the nasty person here, if you don't like a system based on taxation move countries, you are paying a miniscule amount so what is your problem!? Tell me what you would use your left over money for....? It is not how it works you would not be killed you would go to prison if you evade taxes its a criminal offence and you go to jail, you might think you could spend your extra 20 quid or whatever on something more useful, but really on the whole it's only going to go to waste as your selfish.

Firstly, it's a lot more than £20. What I would do with it has no effect on the ethical argument, but I'd probably give it to one of several charities I currently support.

I think his point was everyone dies eventually.

That's quite a claim to make. I would not be surprised at all if being diagnosed with cancer caused you to reassess your position. Even if you don't value your own life, what about those you love? Say you got married and your wife or your child was diagnosed with cancer but you weren't able to afford private treatment... would you still have the same attitude?

Of course we do but that doesn't mean it's fair for people to die when they can potentially live for many years to come, what about children who have only just started their lives and are given a death sentence because their parents can't afford their healthcare?

Precisely.





It still does not justify theft.

People die, get over it.

I am considering getting private health insurance, but no longer wish to contribute to the NHS as it is the worst healthcare system in Western Europe. I do not see it as my responsibility to pay for other peoples' healthcare, when I am more than willing to pay for my own.

Is there any way I can stop the British public stealing my money to pay for their healthcare?

Edit: I might have known that the extreme far left would have taken a disliking to my post.

It's not theft lol you earn money you get taxed on it, its a simple concept. Are you against any type of taxation ever? Are you not happy your money goes towards schooling and public transport etc etc? Well I am afraid that's how things work move if you don't like it.

New arrival?

I suggest you go back and read over the discussion.

It's not theft lol you earn money you get taxed on it, its a simple concept. Are you against any type of taxation ever? Are you not happy your money goes towards schooling and public transport etc etc? Well I am afraid that's how things work move if you don't like it. Of course people die but its not acceptable for them to die because they have no money.

Firstly, it's a lot more than £20. What I would do with it has no effect on the ethical argument, but I'd probably give it to one of several charities I currently support.

Its not, actually;

Per person, the amount that goes towards the NHS in your taxes is between £1-£4.

If you don't want to pay that small amount for good healthcare for 60 million people; then that is your fault as a person within a society.

Its not, actually;

Per person, the amount that goes towards the NHS in your taxes is between £1-£4.

If you don't want to pay that small amount for good healthcare for 60 million people; then that is your fault as a person within a society.