POST HERE For Discussion About The DEATH OF OSAMA BIN LADEN (Updated)

It's like I said, I want to able to say that he is dead, drinks all round et al, yet I never trust a politician because it's in their nature to bull****.
I agree with everything you say; it makes sense for Obama to not lie, he'd effectively end his career as a politician by doing so.
But then take into account 9/11 and all the theories surrounding how "teh govermentz deed eet!", and y'know... *shrugs*
As I said, I'm not a conspiracy nutter. I just want evidence other than someone elses' say so.

I'm sorry, were you there?
They have said he was a threat to the forces there. So unless you were one of the navy seals, i seriuously doubt whether you can comment on how 'easily' he could have been captured.

Worlds most wanted man + being a threat (so not knowing what he could do) + already been in 40 minutes of gun fights = shoot him in the head.

No, i understand.

It's just.. no matter what is said or done their will always be questions,m always be things that cannot tell us or show us and anything they do or don't will flame some conspiracy theories somewhere.

I mean.. what if they released photo's an hour after it happened? It would spark "Way too quick, must have been planned" theories and the like.

I do hope pictures are released though. I mean.. clearly they are going to be a bit brutal.. but surely it isn't hard for news sites + shows to simply say 'turn your kids away' before they show it xD

But then, i guess, a f'ed up face with a gunshot through it isn't the best thing to be put on daily tv . But i'd still rather have that than not.

Can you provide me a source that states that he was a threat to the forces on the night of 1st May? On a preliminary level, the forces entered his compound at 1am on the 1st of May, a time when you least expect a raid and the man was unarmed and may be in a state of shock.

Wasn't really the newspapers though was it... It was in fact a leader of a powerful nation.

The Taliban have acknowledged and according to officials even the Al Qaeda are preparing to acknowledge it.

Plus i'm still yet to see why people think Obama would lie so easily. He is not lying about what he ate for breakfast.. he is on about killing the world's most wanted man. If it wasn't true then he would lose his presidency next year and the country as a whole would be embarrassed. Especially given these idiots who think they haven't even found him.. do they realize how EASILY Osama could just pop up in a video and embarrass the HELL out of America?

I understand a need for pure evidence. But every single thing points to it being the truth. Everything that has been said or done is logical + factual and all points to one thing with not one thing to say that anything is wrong.

Everything is logical because it's a convenient lie. It isn't logical to slaughter a family inside their home from a planned attack and then dump their body at sea then claim that the person was the world's most wanted terrorist without accompanying the claim with evidence. And you cannot argue to the contrary until hard evidence is provided.

Oh and p.s.

It was a 40 minute fight.. when you have fighting going on around you for 20 minutes + .. you aren't 'shocked' . 'Shocked' is if you get attacked within like 1 minute of it beginning. So ya know. shut up

Bin Laden could have surrendered only "if he did not pose any type of threat whatsoever," White House counterterrorism chief John Brennan said on Fox television, and if U.S. troops "were confident of that in terms of his not having an (improvised explosives device) on his body, his not having some type of hidden weapon or whatever."

"He would have had to have been naked for them to allow him to surrender."

"some threatening moves ... that clearly represented a clear threat to our guys. And that's the reason they fired."

Total nonsense. Think before you speak you imbecile. If you were ambushed by a load of armed forces inside your own home and you were found with your family, you would be shocked when you witness your own wife being shot and the rest of your family being shot before your eyes.

Wrong. He has been involved in war for many years, he is used to gunshots around him etc. You would simply not be shocked 20-30 minutes after it started. Simple fact. Grow up and learn some logic. He may have been scared or whatever, but shocked.. no.

Why would a family man inside his family home at 1am be doctoring an explosive bomb inside his home? It doesn't make sense to have a bomb inside one's own home. It's an invalid argument unless a bomb was infact found within the compound, it doesn't have any bearing.

MAYBE BECAUSE HE IS THE WORLDS MOST WANTED MAN

He has said he would not want to be taken alive, he said he would rather die than be taken alive. So tell me.. if you were facing a guy who has said that .. with a known history of violence and work with bombs.. and he was making a threat towards you.. you would just ignore anything he says and does and try to capture him? Bless. So ignorant

This just proves the fact that he wasn't a threat, they were adamant to shoot him even if he surrendered because apparently they had convinced themselves that he was carrying a bomb.

He was a threat unless he was naked.. they threatened him, they shot him. Such are the rules of engagement. If you don't like it than take it up with the various variations of the Army and the hundreds of years of history that come with it.

It now appears that he was unarmed .Why not shoot him in the leg and give him a trial if he even was responsible for 9/11?

Yes, yes, yes!

He was unarmed. That's murder in my books.

1.If you resist arrest you have just start a fight and just raised your status condition from "Capture or Kill" to "Shoot to kill".Plus I heard the mission was a "Shoot to kill" anyway.

2.What he and others have commit are war crimes even against your own kind, so basically I don't think any country would have care if he died because he cause much death in the world already.

3.Think of what happen if he was captured? Attempts on his life by other Americans, Al-Qaeda would want trade other humans lives for Osama's life . There is also many other reasons but at the end he has been shot and now the problem ahead is "Do we still give money to Pakistan even if they have may or may not been harboring a terrorist.

You are literally ridiculously naive. Please shut up, you are boring and annoying.

Common sense says you wouldn't keep a bomb in your house? Rofl .. my god.. just proves how naive you are. He is former leader of the Al Qeada, the world's most wanted man.. a man who would rather die than be captured.. please for the love of god explain to me in your intelligent ways how it was stupid to think he may have a bomb.

He was a retired family man. 10 years since he had been last active, reports say he lived in the compound for 5 years, no one in their right mind would keep a bomb inside their home for that long for fear of putting their family's life at risk.

He was a retired family man. 10 years since he had been last active, reports say he lived in the compound for 5 years, no one in their right mind would keep a bomb inside their home for that long for fear of putting their family's life at risk.

Your ridiculous naivety comes into force here.

He lived with many other people. How do you think he got food? How do you think those people got guns?

They are members of the Al Qeada for god sake.. he could of had a bomb for 5 years.. he could of had it for 5 days.

'The operation was planned from several months ago, America didn't correspond with Pakistan about the mission,'

If you knew ANYTHING AT ALL. You wouldn't even mention this.

Please just go away, you're arguments are terrible and pathetic and you essentially don't have a clue what you are talking about.

Let me make this clear, my view on this is that the compound was empty from the outset, none of the locals there saw him within those five years, on the contrary, the locals claim that it would have been difficult for him to live there for that long and go unnoticed. I'm assuming what has been claimed so far as true in order to refute your arguments.

Those people didn't get guns because they were later found to be unarmed. The compound had no firearms in it nor a bomb.