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Ah, finally someone who understands this! Everyone condemns me as a sexist bigot whenever I say that God created man and woman for different roles - although they are both equal in the eyes of God. The universe is based on balance (e.g. God's power and love) so to see women, for example, occupying most military and political positions would profoundly imbalance and distort the social order that God Himself has set in place.

do you mean 'most' as in majority of available roles? or 'most' as in, the majority of the roles available are unsuited to women.

I meant 'most' as in the majority of roles are unsuited to women. I am not saying that they are necessarily more incompetent in areas of law/politics/military than men; I know plenty of women who are able to excel amongst male-dominated work environments.

I love how you two just break into chatting bout complementarianism and egalatarism. And I just don't know what either means! Yeah, I think when we listen to anyone preach we shouldn't take their word as fact, but ruminate on it and see if it rings true for us

Ah, finally someone who understands this! Everyone condemns me as a sexist bigot whenever I say that God created man and woman for different roles - although they are both equal in the eyes of God. The universe is based on balance (e.g. God's power and love) so to see women, for example, occupying most military and political positions would profoundly imbalance and distort the social order that God Himself has set in place.

From your post further down, it sounds like you're a complemegalitarian



This is probably because a lot of the time, when churches do talk about the roles of men and women, they are being sexist bigots... I've heard so many churches teaching that women shouldn't work, and ought just to stay at home, it's unbelievable.

I'd say marrying the wrong man is a bigger mistake than having sex. (being as marriage is a thought through process and you make a promise, and with sex it can be more a matter of not thinking/getting carried away in the bedroom)

for the record, I'm not condemning either. On that topic, I don't know if it's come up before but general poll on sex before marriage. It's always a big un isn't it?

From your post further down, it sounds like you're a complemegalitarian



This is probably because a lot of the time, when churches do talk about the roles of men and women, they are being sexist bigots... I've heard so many churches teaching that women shouldn't work, and ought just to stay at home, it's unbelievable.

more incompetent is a ridiculous phrase.

what are you saying then? You're not being clear. You say the majority of roles are unsuited to women, and then say that you doing think they lack competence in those area's. So why exactly are they unsuited???

Military in terms of physicality is fairly obvious. but politically?

Sex before marriage is a big no for me, simply because the bible speaks out so much against it.

I did not say they lacked competence lol.

I do not believe that politics is a role for women. They are obviously just as capable as men in knowing the trappings of governance; but they lack the aura of authority which men naturally embrace. Moreover, the Bible states that women should personify more tender virtues, such as modesty (e.g. wearing a head scarf during church/assembly attendance).

I agree

I'm undecided on sex before marriage. I think Christians make a huge fuss about it when there are worse sins out there. Since I've never been in a relationship myself, I don't know what I'd end up doing if there was a guy I was sexually attracted to

Sex before marriage is an incredibly difficult topic. I would never, and could never condemn anyone for doing such, especially when the issue is so complex. I think to decide not to, it takes a certain understanding of 'why not?' And sex shouldn't be turned into something evil or dirty. It's a perfectly natural desire. It does protect us emotionally and physically to minimise our sexual partners, and I think the more sexually involved/intimate you are with someone, the more it can hurt if it doesn't work out.. but on the other hand, it is natural and an important part of relationships. And relationship dynamics have changed in the time between now and when the bible was written.

I also think it's far easier to deny yourself something that isn't thrown in your face constantly in the media/tv/films as something amazing and great with (usually) little consequences and that you've no experience of.

Really? tbh I'd really rather be a singlementarian. Yep, I just made that word up. The point being I don't feel any burning need or desire to get married.

On the topic of things that I think are stupid: Couples that get married really young because a) they had sex and thought if they didn't they'd get burned in hell and b) because they won't to have sex without getting burned in hell. (note the exaggeration)

I'd say marrying the wrong man is a bigger mistake than having sex. (being as marriage is a thought through process and you make a promise, and with sex it can be more a matter of not thinking/getting carried away in the bedroom)

for the record, I'm not condemning either. On that topic, I don't know if it's come up before but general poll on sex before marriage. It's always a big un isn't it?

I believe that there exist some suitable work roles for women, such as doctors, nurses, waitresses and other service-related jobs. But I do not think they should be politicians, soldiers or civil servants.

I think Christians inadvertently tend to give the simultaneous expression that sex is something loving and holy, yet also dirty and wrong. It's quite impressive really!

I wouldn't condemn anyone for it either

You can be a singlementariancomplemegalitarian if you really want

I'd also say no to sex before marriage.

I did not say they lacked competence lol.

I do not believe that politics is a role for women. They are obviously just as capable as men in knowing the trappings of governance; but they lack the aura of authority which men naturally embrace. Moreover, the Bible states that women should personify more tender virtues, such as modesty (e.g. wearing a head scarf during church/assembly attendance).

Can I please have prayer? Money is worrying my family at the moment so things are really difficult on top of my dads illness. Would really appreciate it.

Really? tbh I'd really rather be a singlementarian. Yep, I just made that word up. The point being I don't feel any burning need or desire to get married.

On the topic of things that I think are stupid: Couples that get married really young because a) they had sex and thought if they didn't they'd get burned in hell and b) because they won't to have sex without getting burned in hell. (note the exaggeration)

I'd say marrying the wrong man is a bigger mistake than having sex. (being as marriage is a thought through process and you make a promise, and with sex it can be more a matter of not thinking/getting carried away in the bedroom)

for the record, I'm not condemning either. On that topic, I don't know if it's come up before but general poll on sex before marriage. It's always a big un isn't it?