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Reply 480
surely that means that the EU have to get rid of their common external trade policy for free trade
Reply 481
Original post by boliver228
Can Someone PLEASE Help Me!

This is what my teacher taught me:

The PIIGS has above average growth before the recession, but it was all demand led, and was not matched by supply. This meant the growth was short term in nature, and led to high inflation.

When the recession then hit, demand fell and the PIIGS were left with very weak economies because they had ignored supply side performance, which is vital for long term growth.

The PIIGS are now left with high labour and output costs, due to the high inflation pushing up wages and costs. This means they are uncompetitive within and outside the Euro area. Usually high inflation would lead to a fall in the value of the currency, but because the Euro is fixed for the PIIGS, this mechanism cannot work. To regain competitiveness, the PIIGS need to focus on improving their supply side performance.

Right, Here is What I dont understand.

If aggregate demand fell when the recession hit, why is inflation still high. I thought a fall in demand causes inflation to fall. So why didnt this fall in demand cause a fall in inflation, and hence a fall in output and labour costs.

Also, if there is low demand in the economy, what is the point in improving supply side performance. If there is no demand to match this rising supply, it will just lead to spare capacity and unemployment.

I dont understand how demand fell, but inflation has remained high.

Someone please explain this, I may be complicating things in my head.



Hmm.. thats quite tricky, but the idea with this stimulus is the inflexibility in the labour markets. I always use extract 3 in this case, but Spain have a really generous welfare system, and people are not wiling to work for less, and therefore, natural rates of unemployment are really high and labour costs will NOT fall. the labour market is inflexible.


I hope that helps, it's pretty vague... but the whole idea is about inflexibilty in the labour market i guess.

Also, the economy NEEDS to improve their supply side performance for the long term effects. Improving the supply side performance will mean that the LRAS curve shifts rightwards and therefore, inflationary pressures are lowered and therefore the economy can become competitive again. This would therefore, create demand for employment as well as sustain any rising demand. This also would then stimulate consumption, investment and then reduce government spending and what not... In general it can just make the economy better off, and more sustainable

hope that helps :smile:
Reply 482
Original post by Elponchis_LOL
whats difference between trade liberalisation and globalisation? or does trade liberlisation cause globalisation?


Trade liberalisation refers to opening up the market to trade to increase competition and contestability in markets, to bring prices down and broaden the range of products and services. It also refers to increasing productivity and efficiency by allocating resources to where they are better produced.

but globalisation refers to the process by which economies become closer linked and integrated as a global economy... sorry if this has already been replied to. Thought i'd just go through the thread at what i hadn't read and help people. Probably too late now though :P
Reply 483
Original post by mqt
Agin, not sure if someones answered cause i'm trying to ctahc up on this thread again :P...

Erm trade liberalistion refers to opening up the market to make it more contestable, and i guess, is free trade.

When there is free trade, resources are allocated to where they are best produced and therefore, everyone can exploit their comparative advantages, specialise, (and in the theory of free trade), everyone benefits from being able to access more resources.
It can therefore benefit countries' development because they have access to resources, new technology and the best knowledge which can help them grow. Furthermore, as it is free trade, the would be free to import without the nuisance of tariffs, high tech machinery etc. to benefit the production of their resources. therefore, they can produce more! increasing their potential productive capacity.

With poverty, free trade means that more is consumed and more can be traded which can stimulate growth and improve peoples standards of living which therefore reduces poverty. In addition to this, Multinational corporations are more likely to invest in moving their production in those places which have the cheapest production costs or labour costs. And therefore FDI being an injection in to the circular flow of income, can multiply around the economy, creating jobs and income and growth in general.

however, this does not come without downfalls. FDi has been criticised as MNC's, can exploit cheap labour in countries such as India as they can pay labour next to peanuts and in countries which are still developing, they have no trade union to protect them from this exploitation. Therefore, the inequality grows between those rich and poor countries. Furthermore, although in general standards of living increase, relative poverty also increases.

Not only this, trade liberalisation although can benefit everyone depends on terms of trade. And also how well a country can deal with international competition, as infant industries cannot, and would need financial support, and therefore, development could actually be hindered...

There's so much more!...
- developing countries are the ones with poverty...but unfotunately developed countries tend to trade with eachother which means that developing countries struggle to be competitive.
- oh yes, i missed out all this, lower prices to enjoy, more choices, everyone becomes more competitive, more efficient, more productive, more contestability
-economies of scale can benefit the economy
-dynamic efficiency gains
-trade in actual knowledge stimulates development and production making better products, higher standards of living
-in the long run, if you're open to trade, you grow faster

etc etc...


In addition can you say that
- free trade will esentially create economic growth but not nessecarily development as growth is only one aspect of development.

Problems:
- Need a level playing field - e.g. E.U still imposed a restriction of health and safety laws to Bolivian Brazil nut producers meaning they couldn't export to the E.U.
- Depends how wealth is distributed - Often kept in hands of few people.
- LDC's often have corrupt governments with no interest in promoting development.
- Trading blocs such as E.U often divert trade from low cost producers(LDC's) to less efficient ones within the trading bloc.

However, you could give an example of how Germany and particularly China have developed so well as they have huge export markets although China still have a relatively low GDP per head.
Original post by xChelsea
In addition can you say that
- free trade will esentially create economic growth but not nessecarily development as growth is only one aspect of development.

Problems:
- Need a level playing field - e.g. E.U still imposed a restriction of health and safety laws to Bolivian Brazil nut producers meaning they couldn't export to the E.U.
- Depends how wealth is distributed - Often kept in hands of few people.
- LDC's often have corrupt governments with no interest in promoting development.
- Trading blocs such as E.U often divert trade from low cost producers(LDC's) to less efficient ones within the trading bloc.

However, you could give an example of how Germany and particularly China have developed so well as they have huge export markets although China still have a relatively low GDP per head.


i think bring in how development is measured, By using the human devlopment index
1) education
2) living standards ( real GDP per capita )
3)life expectancy

So economic growth imrpoves living standards but economic growth could be due to comparative advantage. Therefore the economy will only have skills for the industry they have an advantage in which may reduce education and skills all together, so by this measurement, economic growth may not always lead to development
(tell me if im wrong)
Reply 485
Could anyone explain what an output gap is?

And would it be helpful to know Robert Mundell's concept of an optimal currency area for a potential question on the success of euro zone?
Reply 486
Original post by Tickles
Why does Spain suffer from a lack of competitiveness in output and labour markets ? :s


Spain suffers from a lack of competitiveness for a number of reasons. Firstly, it could be blamed on their generous welfare system. This is because having a generous welfare system means that rates of natural unemployment are higher. The labour force is being unproductive because the benefit of being out of work and on benefits is more than being in a low paid job during the recession.

Not only this, when the Euro was first implemented, but not in full circulation, everyone was unsure of the real value of the Euro, therefore, firms and producers, realising this, exploited consumers by raising their prices to gain the biggest profit margins they could, which made output prices rise. But by 2002when the Euro was in full circulation, it was in fact true that things were now very expensive, cause labour to demand higher wages. Therefore, as their output prices and labour unit costs were high, they lacked competitiveness

hope that helps :smile:
Reply 487
Original post by xChelsea
Could anyone explain what an output gap is?


An output gap is the difference between potential GDP and Actual GDP it shows how much spare capacity an economy has
Reply 488
Original post by Elponchis_LOL
i think bring in how development is measured, By using the human devlopment index
1) education
2) living standards ( real GDP per capita )
3) life expectancy

So economic growth imrpoves living standards but economic growth could be due to comparative advantage. Therefore the economy will only have skills for the industry they have an advantage in which may reduce education and skills all together, so by this measurement, economic growth may not always lead to development
(tell me if im wrong)


Yeah i think you could, for Development to increase, quality of life also needs to improve rather than just standards of living:
- Workers also need to be educated (could argue FDI such as the MNC's e.g. Nike in Vietnam provided education and training to their workers as their parents couldn't afford education)
- Life expectancy needs to increase.

I have no idea what else to say haha.:rolleyes:
Reply 489

Original post by mqt
Spain suffers from a lack of competitiveness for a number of reasons. Firstly, it could be blamed on their generous welfare system. This is because having a generous welfare system means that rates of natural unemployment are higher. The labour force is being unproductive because the benefit of being out of work and on benefits is more than being in a low paid job during the recession.

Not only this, when the Euro was first implemented, but not in full circulation, everyone was unsure of the real value of the Euro, therefore, firms and producers, realising this, exploited consumers by raising their prices to gain the biggest profit margins they could, which made output prices rise. But by 2002when the Euro was in full circulation, it was in fact true that things were now very expensive, cause labour to demand higher wages. Therefore, as their output prices and labour unit costs were high, they lacked competitiveness

hope that helps :smile:


surely for free trade to happen means that the EU has to give up their common external trade policy?
Reply 490
How many pages should you aim to write for the 10 and 20mark questions?

I was thinking 2 pages for 10 marker and 4 for 20 marker?
Reply 491
Original post by viksta1000
Yes but this is economics and not sociology :wink: so think of it from an economical perspective...look at the entire labour market rather than one person

Sure, someone with a Phd in astrophysics wouldn't want a career as a waiter....but look at the labour market as a whole
jobs are scarce and people are desperate for jobs, people are struggling maintain their standards of living so they are simply looking to get back into work to get some money coming in

Spains welfare system is not politics, is economics

and yeah exactly, that's the whole point of economics...im not right, and neither are you...the fact is that we're both analysing a perspective of economics, so the fact that natural unemployment exists in Spain is a good analytical standpoint of a downfall in their fiscal policy

there's no right or wrong answers in economics as long as you can display a balanced argument



it was an example... and i wasn't syaing you were wrong. i was just trying to help. it's a broader picture than the economic consequences, as now, in economics we are learning about the social consequences as well as economically consequnces... (and i don't do sociology) how does it affect people on a personal level too... It is true, (in a keyensian view) that wage rates just don't fall...
In a recession, jobs are scare, and people are desperate, but it's not always the case that they will get work. Would you work as a dustbin man..(i know thats mean...) but i personnally wouldn't want to for a number of reasons, personal and not...
Reply 492
Original post by ajayhp
surely for free trade to happen means that the EU has to give up their common external trade policy?


Could you explain what the EU common external trade policy is please:colondollar:?
Reply 493
Original post by xChelsea

Original post by xChelsea
Could you explain what the EU common external trade policy is please:colondollar:?


It is when the countries in the customs union agree on putting the same tariffs to external non-members on imports
Original post by mqt
Would you work as a dustbin man..(i know thats mean...) but i personnally wouldn't want to for a number of reasons, personal and not...

yeah you're a meanie :wink: I think you should think more carefully about how you phrase things in future :tongue:

Original post by mqt
It was an example... and i wasn't syaing you were wrong. i was just trying to help. it's a broader picture than the economic consequences, as now, in economics we are learning about the social consequences as well as economically consequnces... (and i don't do sociology) how does it affect people on a personal level too...


I wasn't saying that you were wrong either. I was applauding you on displaying more counter arguments :biggrin:

viksta1000
that's the whole point of economics...im not right, and neither are you...the fact is that we're both analysing a perspective of economics, so the fact that natural unemployment exists in Spain is a good analytical standpoint of a downfall in their fiscal policy

see ^ :smile:
(edited 12 years ago)
Reply 495
Original post by Tickles
Why does Spain suffer from a lack of competitiveness in output and labour markets ? :s


In terms of their output markets they lack competition and contestability, therefore economic inefficiencies which has led to a lack of productive output and higher prices.

In terms of their labour markets they lack flexibility, inefficient labour market in terms of low productivity again and persistently high rates of structural unemployment, workers in jobs for which they are not best suited for and so on.

You could also mention in terms of competitiveness in their output markets price levels (inflation) is higher in comparison to other EU countries therefore making it less competitive... ermm.. oh yeh and their labour costs (producer costs) are high thus once again less competitive...
(edited 12 years ago)
Thanks for your answer guys, it has partly cleared things up. Would still like to get some more perspectives though.

This is what my teacher taught me:

The PIIGS has above average growth before the recession, but it was all demand led, and was not matched by supply. This meant the growth was short term in nature, and led to high inflation.

When the recession then hit, demand fell and the PIIGS were left with very weak economies because they had ignored supply side performance, which is vital for long term growth.

The PIIGS are now left with high labour and output costs, due to the high inflation pushing up wages and costs. This means they are uncompetitive within and outside the Euro area. Usually high inflation would lead to a fall in the value of the currency, but because the Euro is fixed for the PIIGS, this mechanism cannot work. To regain competitiveness, the PIIGS need to focus on improving their supply side performance.

Right, Here is What I dont understand.

If aggregate demand fell when the recession hit, why is inflation still high. I thought a fall in demand causes inflation to fall. So why didnt this fall in demand cause a fall in inflation, and hence a fall in output and labour costs.

Also, if there is low demand in the economy, what is the point in improving supply side performance. If there is no demand to match this rising supply, it will just lead to spare capacity and unemployment.

I dont understand how demand fell, but inflation has remained high.

Someone please explain this, I may be complicating things in my head.
Reply 497
Original post by frabbar
How many pages should you aim to write for the 10 and 20mark questions?

I was thinking 2 pages for 10 marker and 4 for 20 marker?


Doesn't really matter in terms of quantity, quality is key! In terms of 10 marks aim to get 2 points max 3 FOR and 3 Against and also a nice diagram!

20.. go crazy.
Not sure if this really fits into this thread but could someone please either point me to a place where i can find out about or tell me about essay technique, other than economics i do maths, physics, and ICT i hardly ever write essays and it has been my downfall in the past i really need to get this cracked.

Preferably someone looking to get an A to answer
Thanks
Reply 499
Original post by Hits1
Doesn't really matter in terms of quantity, quality is key! In terms of 10 marks aim to get 2 points max 3 FOR and 3 Against and also a nice diagram!

20.. go crazy.


What diagrams could you use for trade.
Don't knw many..

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