Medicine 2012...(hopeful entrants) !!

absolutley astounding.

how long did it take to work that out - be honest?

ALL of the CO, is used in step 3. so 56Grams of it

Very good logic tbh, very good

so tell me, if it was a 3:2 ratio...how would you go about that?

56grams = 28 2

3:2 ratio

(12+32) x 2/1.5 = mass of Co2?

see, when i read it, i completely got blitzed. I did not use logic - but even so, it is very good that you saw that...good find imo

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You know the issue with the prices of these right?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Kaplan-BMAT-Biomedical-Admissions-Test-/220804521875?pt=Non_Fiction&hash=item3368f99f93#ht_500wt_1156

Most people say it's not worth it though.

http://www.admissionstests.cambridgeassessment.org.uk/adt/digitalAssets/123910_BMAT_Section_2_2010.pdf

What about number 12? ^_^

WHAT!!???? BLOODY MADNESS!!

Same time as the other question?

And if it was a 3:2 ratio, then you would just do (2/3) x 2 x (12+32) to get the mass of CO2.

spot on, i mixed up my thoughts lol

all you need to know is TWO moles are used.

and then, look at the ratio seperately, to work out the mass

how did you know you had to do this?

^_^ also

http://www.admissionstests.cambridgeassessment.org.uk/adt/digitalAssets/123910_BMAT_Section_2_2010.pdf

can you do Q12?

Just done it and got C, sorry if I'm wrong but rushed it.

(1080 + PT) / (20 + P) = 56
1080 + PT = 56 (20 + P)
1080 + PT = 1120 + 56P
PT = 40 + 56P
PT - 56P = 40
P (T - 56) = 40
P = 40 / (T-56) = C.

just wow

right answer, spot on, no idea how you can do these

but i didn't understand what the question is asking/your working

you're spot on, it's just me

could you explain please?

It's hard to explain but I can try:

You know the combined mean time is 56, so to do this, you must add the total of all the times, and divide it by the number of people (like a normal average).

So as the mean of the first group is 54, do 54 x 20 = 1080 (it's their total times), and you need to add this to PT, which is the total for the second group, and divide all of this by 20 + P, which is the total number of people, and this all equals 56. Tadaa. Now the rest is just algebra Anyways I'm off working for a bit now

Are you on waiting lists for any cause you might be able to get in that way? Or just try ringing them up on the day once you've got your results, thats what I'm gonna do. Its very unlikely, but who knows

Yes, that does sound like a good idea, do uni's tell you if you are on the waiting list? (I hope not! )

Yes, that does sound like a good idea, do uni's tell you if you are on the waiting list? (I hope not! )

yeahh I want to go to Canada what about you?

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How'd the app's go?

is there any advise you'll like to give us?

PS: as medicine is so competitive and many good candidates are rejected - what can you learn ?

How'd the app's go?

is there any advise you'll like to give us?

PS: as medicine is so competitive and many good candidates are rejected - what can you learn ?

Here's some advice on how to become a "hopeful entrant", because most of you seem like you will be rejected.

1st, dropping an AS in your first year will not improve your chances at medical school, (Although many students do it) and therefore is not recommended. What I would recommend is, continue your fourth AS to A2, or if you want to drop it, then choose a different AS as it gives you a broader depth of knowledge. Subjects I would drop at AS is Biology, or any other subject apart from Chemistry. I say Biology because A2 Biology is usually to do with plants and animals, and most universities won't be that fussed about Biology at A2. I also recommend you take the Extended Project and do really well in it as it equips you very well for university, and is highly valued by every university. Apart from the normal A levels (Chemistry, Biology, Physics, Maths), I recommend you take at least one of the following subjects at AS at least as your 3rd or 4th A level, or as an extra AS in your second year, Psychology, Philosophy, Anthropology, English Language, Law or Foreign/Modern Languages. The reason I say this is because, these are academically rigorous subjects and all have applications to medicine that are sometimes not a part of some medical degrees. Therefore, it is good to have an idea in these subjects. Plus, university is all about being academic, regardless of what degree you do, so you need to show them that you can handle such high level of study, especially medicine!

2nd, work experience is very important. If you don't have a good amount of work experience, don't bother applying because you WILL get rejected, that is how fierce the competition is. You should have done at least 2 different types of work experience totalling up to at least 20 days. Work experience does not have to be medical related, but has to be in some form of caring or communicating role. This can include anything relating to: Hospitals, Clinics, Care Homes, Rehab Centres, Retail Stores, Restaurants, Fundraising, Surveying, Public Events and many others. Voluntary work is much more better than doing a one week work placement or getting a part-time job, as it shows your enthusiasm, commitment and ambition to want to help people. That doesn't mean, if you get a job offer or work placement offer you don't do it, you still should do it, as you need all the help you can get to face the competition of medical school. Also, make sure your work experiences are a major part of your statements, along with stating exactly what you LEARNT from it, not just "I worked here and help a man" but rather, "I worked at so-and-so and gave support to a patient with so-and-so disorder. It gave me valuable experience, as I began to learn how such people live, cope and deal with their situations and problems, and how I can possibly be a major part of their life by improving their health by doing so-and-so" etc something like that.

3rd, early application along with a very strong statement, and a really good reference from your personal tutor. The slightest flaw can destroy all of your chances. Stay on your tutors GOOD side, keep an excellent attendance and always work hard and hand in homework/coursework etc well before it is due.

4th, if you here about any events that will be running by any universities, colleges or any other insitution that is science or healthcare related, do your best to try and attend these, as you could learn so much.

5th, don't put yourself down if you think you can't study medicine because you don't have enough GCSE's. Most universities don't really bother with them because they expect students to already have them, and your A levels can compensate for them. Even if you can't study A levels, and you end up on a BTEC, there is still a chance, as long as you have A level chemistry at grade A and your BTEC is all Distinction work. Yes! BTEC applicants DO get into medical school, although it is rare. This also goes for people studying other qualifications, as long as you have A level chemistry, and the amount of study you do is equivalent to 3 A levels, then you stand a chance! But to be honest, out of all the different types of students, the type of students that have the best chance are the IB students. Because they do so much more than A level students.

6th, being cleverer doesn't improve your chances of medical school. It is all about commitment. Do you want to be spending the rest of your life studying? Don't consider medicine as a science, consider it as your life. Science is about discoveries. Medicine is about saving lives, treating people and improving health care. Every single day of your life as a doctor will be different. You will meet different people, with different illnesses. Especially ones that you may not have heard of before, which is where the studying comes in. Some specialties, it takes at least 13 years to fully qualify. You need to consider whether you are prepared for that. There is no quick or easy way into medicine, and being JUST clever will kill your chances, as this shows universities you're big headed.

And finally, remember that, Medicine is not a course where you attend lectures and sit exams, it is a vocational course. Without practical experience (Work exp), backed up with highly academic ability (Strong grades) you are most likely not to get in. For every seat, there are 8-30 applicants (Depending on university). On top of this, you get a lot of graduates that apply, and you can't compete with people that already have degrees! That's why, you need to show that, regardless of if someone has a higher qualification than you, you can be a better doctor than they can ever dream of. Hopes this helps everyone, and good luck for everyone applying to medical school. Any questions, just ask away, either on here or message me.

yeahh I want to go to Canada what about you?

Which canadian medical unis you planning to apply ?

Yes, that does sound like a good idea, do uni's tell you if you are on the waiting list? (I hope not! )

what about the isc one or the official one?

Here's some advice on how to become a "hopeful entrant", because most of you seem like you will be rejected.

1st, dropping an AS in your first year will not improve your chances at medical school, (Although many students do it) and therefore is not recommended. What I would recommend is, continue your fourth AS to A2, or if you want to drop it, then choose a different AS as it gives you a broader depth of knowledge. Subjects I would drop at AS is Biology, or any other subject apart from Chemistry. I say Biology because A2 Biology is usually to do with plants and animals, and most universities won't be that fussed about Biology at A2. I also recommend you take the Extended Project and do really well in it as it equips you very well for university, and is highly valued by every university. Apart from the normal A levels (Chemistry, Biology, Physics, Maths), I recommend you take at least one of the following subjects at AS at least as your 3rd or 4th A level, or as an extra AS in your second year, Psychology, Philosophy, Anthropology, English Language, Law or Foreign/Modern Languages. The reason I say this is because, these are academically rigorous subjects and all have applications to medicine that are sometimes not a part of some medical degrees. Therefore, it is good to have an idea in these subjects. Plus, university is all about being academic, regardless of what degree you do, so you need to show them that you can handle such high level of study, especially medicine!

2nd, work experience is very important. If you don't have a good amount of work experience, don't bother applying because you WILL get rejected, that is how fierce the competition is. You should have done at least 2 different types of work experience totalling up to at least 20 days. Work experience does not have to be medical related, but has to be in some form of caring or communicating role. This can include anything relating to: Hospitals, Clinics, Care Homes, Rehab Centres, Retail Stores, Restaurants, Fundraising, Surveying, Public Events and many others. Voluntary work is much more better than doing a one week work placement or getting a part-time job, as it shows your enthusiasm, commitment and ambition to want to help people. That doesn't mean, if you get a job offer or work placement offer you don't do it, you still should do it, as you need all the help you can get to face the competition of medical school. Also, make sure your work experiences are a major part of your statements, along with stating exactly what you LEARNT from it, not just "I worked here and help a man" but rather, "I worked at so-and-so and gave support to a patient with so-and-so disorder. It gave me valuable experience, as I began to learn how such people live, cope and deal with their situations and problems, and how I can possibly be a major part of their life by improving their health by doing so-and-so" etc something like that.

3rd, early application along with a very strong statement, and a really good reference from your personal tutor. The slightest flaw can destroy all of your chances. Stay on your tutors GOOD side, keep an excellent attendance and always work hard and hand in homework/coursework etc well before it is due.

4th, if you here about any events that will be running by any universities, colleges or any other insitution that is science or healthcare related, do your best to try and attend these, as you could learn so much.

5th, don't put yourself down if you think you can't study medicine because you don't have enough GCSE's. Most universities don't really bother with them because they expect students to already have them, and your A levels can compensate for them. Even if you can't study A levels, and you end up on a BTEC, there is still a chance, as long as you have A level chemistry at grade A and your BTEC is all Distinction work. Yes! BTEC applicants DO get into medical school, although it is rare. This also goes for people studying other qualifications, as long as you have A level chemistry, and the amount of study you do is equivalent to 3 A levels, then you stand a chance! But to be honest, out of all the different types of students, the type of students that have the best chance are the IB students. Because they do so much more than A level students.

6th, being cleverer doesn't improve your chances of medical school. It is all about commitment. Do you want to be spending the rest of your life studying? Don't consider medicine as a science, consider it as your life. Science is about discoveries. Medicine is about saving lives, treating people and improving health care. Every single day of your life as a doctor will be different. You will meet different people, with different illnesses. Especially ones that you may not have heard of before, which is where the studying comes in. Some specialties, it takes at least 13 years to fully qualify. You need to consider whether you are prepared for that. There is no quick or easy way into medicine, and being JUST clever will kill your chances, as this shows universities you're big headed.

And finally, remember that, Medicine is not a course where you attend lectures and sit exams, it is a vocational course. Without practical experience (Work exp), backed up with highly academic ability (Strong grades) you are most likely not to get in. For every seat, there are 8-30 applicants (Depending on university). On top of this, you get a lot of graduates that apply, and you can't compete with people that already have degrees! That's why, you need to show that, regardless of if someone has a higher qualification than you, you can be a better doctor than they can ever dream of. Hopes this helps everyone, and good luck for everyone applying to medical school. Any questions, just ask away, either on here or message me.