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Original post by MHRed
I'm planning on doing it, with it being based on something along the lines of Euclid's Elemts/Proof/ Greek mathematics. :smile:
Or something. Not really too sure what the 'question' is going to be.

How long have you known about the EPQ? I literally only heard of it's existence the other day haha


Ooh that sounds pretty cool :smile:
I was thinking of something to do with fibonacci maybe and how it can be seen in nature/ or maths and music but that looks complicated!!! :/ haha
i posted my first idea somewhere else on TSR and someone replied saying it sounded a cliche :/...?

Ermm ive known about it for a few months... :smile:
Whats the difference between an MMath and Bsc?
Reply 722
MMath's are normally four years instead of 3 for the case of a BSc. MMath's count as master's level qualifications.
Original post by BeccaCath94
Whats the difference between an MMath and Bsc?


Bsc: Bachelors degree - 3 years
MMath: integrated Masters- 4 years.

There may be more technical differences so others will need to contribute in that regard.
Original post by around
MMath's are normally four years instead of 3 for the case of a BSc. MMath's count as master's level qualifications.


Original post by ben-smith
Bsc: Bachelors degree - 3 years
MMath: integrated Masters- 4 years.

There may be more technical differences so others will need to contribute in that regard.


Oh ok thank you :biggrin:
But the course content doesnt really differ?
Original post by BeccaCath94
Oh ok thank you :biggrin:
But the course content doesnt really differ?


Apart from the extra maths you do in the 4th year obviously.
For example, If you are doing a maths degree but you really like theoretical physics then you will probably miss out on a lot if you don't do the 4th year as that is when you can specialise.
Original post by ben-smith
Apart from the extra maths you do in the 4th year obviously.
For example, If you are doing a maths degree but you really like theoretical physics then you will probably miss out on a lot if you don't do the 4th year as that is when you can specialise.


One of the four years ones i was looking at was with a year abroad....So will that just be the 4th year and the rest the same as the three year course?
Original post by BeccaCath94
One of the four years ones i was looking at was with a year abroad....So will that just be the 4th year and the rest the same as the three year course?


I don't know for sure but I would expect that the 'year abroad' options are in a slightly different vein to most maths 4 year courses.
IIRC most MMath courses are the BSC+ 1 year like you say.
Original post by ben-smith
I don't know for sure but I would expect that the 'year abroad' options are in a slightly different vein to most maths 4 year courses.
IIRC most MMath courses are the BSC+ 1 year like you say.


Yeah i'll look into it :smile:
Thank you!
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Original post by like_a_star
For maths, its part of the offer that you do both maths and further maths at Warwick. For a different degree they might not but I think most unis would prefer you do further maths when applying for maths.


I think you misunderstood me.

I am saying if you do maths and further maths they like you to take 2 other A level subjects and don't want you to drop one of them after AS.
Original post by BeccaCath94
Whats the difference between an MMath and Bsc?


At Warwick (other than the 3/4 year thing):
First year is identical.
Second year is identical except for the fact that if you are on the MMath then you must take the 66 CATS (credits) worth of BSc core as well as take at least one of two key modules (PDEs and/or Metric Spaces) and do a total of 24 additional CATS in 'Maths' modules (this can consist of PDEs/Metric - each of them are worth 12 CATS each).
Third year: BSc must take a minimum of 57 CATS of Maths modules (normal load of modules is 120 CATS). MMath must take at least 90 Maths.

Third/Fourth: MMath must take 108 CATS of 'level 4' modules over the two years.

But yeah, check out the course regulations and PYDC if you are interested.
Original post by Thrug
I think you misunderstood me.

I am saying if you do maths and further maths they like you to take 2 other A level subjects and don't want you to drop one of them after AS.


And I'm assuming she's saying that because they want maths and further maths, having them as 2 of 3 a-levels isn't discriminated against. Having maths and further maths as 2 of 3 is seen as a disadvantage for some courses, I'm pretty sure maths isn't one of them.
Are Msci and Mmath the same thing? Or what is the difference?
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Original post by hassi94
And I'm assuming she's saying that because they want maths and further maths, having them as 2 of 3 a-levels isn't discriminated against. Having maths and further maths as 2 of 3 is seen as a disadvantage for some courses, I'm pretty sure maths isn't one of them.


Yea just checked on the website and you can just do 3 with M and FM.. Think it was economics then where they don't want M + FM + another... [Seeing though that's what the guy who told me this info wants to apply for :tongue:]
Original post by Thrug
Yea just checked on the website and you can just do 3 with M and FM.. Think it was economics then where they don't want M + FM + another... [Seeing though that's what the guy who told me this info wants to apply for :tongue:]


Yeah I believe LSE do that too for Economics.
Original post by like_a_star
Are Msci and Mmath the same thing? Or what is the difference?


Pretty sure they're the same, just different names given by different universities. (If you can find a uni that offers both an MSci and MMath degree for maths, you'd prove me wrong though!)
Original post by Xero Xenith
Pretty sure they're the same, just different names given by different universities. (If you can find a uni that offers both an MSci and MMath degree for maths, you'd prove me wrong though!)


I'm under the impression that the MMath is a 4 year course with the masters bit integrated (Maths pun ftw) and the Msci is a stand alone qualification.
Original post by Xero Xenith
Pretty sure they're the same, just different names given by different universities. (If you can find a uni that offers both an MSci and MMath degree for maths, you'd prove me wrong though!)


Warwick offer an MSc and a MMath. But yes, an MSci and MSc are different, the MSci and MMath are basically an undergraduate 4 year courses, while the MSc is the 1 year research course you do after a BSc.
Reply 738
May as well add me in:

GCSEs - 6A* 3A 1B
AS - Biology, Chemistry, Physics, Critical Thinking and Maths (did the whole A level this year, doing further next year)
Universities - Cambridge, Warwick, Imperial, UCL, LSE(Maths with Econ)

Also im in the middle of reading Fermat's Last Theorem by Simon Singh which i think is a brilliant book at the moment
add me in please, I'm applying

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