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Original post by TheJ0ker
It would be **** there would be no diversity, we would all end up being the same colour


Definiton of diversity: Less white people.

To hell with diversity, this forum is delusional to think that you can just "change" nationality, Amir Khans British passport doesnt make him British, he is Pakistani.

Nationality is by blood, not location.
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Original post by Flying Flowers
White people are not desperate to live with blacks, you are equating British imperialism with modern migration and both are not comparable. Whites do not move en masse to nigeria, Pakistan and India to live permenantly and take citizenship of those countries.

No answer my question why are non wites so desperate to live in white countries ?

I do not see whites queing in hundreds of thousand every week at Pakistan embassies for settlement visas. I do not see white people clinging to trucks to smuggle themselves into India. I do not see white people begging on their knees for asylum in Nigeria.


Youre missing the point completely. for a start white people used to do that (forcefully rather than through an immigration office eg Australia).Look at Brazil or Mexico, most people there are white and speak Spanish or Portuguese. now how could that be possible without mass migration? This was because of people with a **** standard of life in Europe (persecution or famine or plague) moved to the Americas for a better life. They didn't go because they loved the Incas or the Aztecs. White people do not beg to go to Nigeria because the white countries (some of them) are doing better economically. You make out as if other races come here just because white people are so amazing and better than everyone else that we all must be around you. This is obvious bs as immigrants usually form their own communities and largely ignore white people and culture anyway. You can't look me in the face and tell me that if this country went third-world somehow (global warming or economic crash) and China, India, and Nigeria became the top superpowers with amazing standards of living, that white English people would just sit tight and starve in the UK rather than run away to the aforementioned countries for a decent standard of living. Your view is basically "lesser" non-whites immigrate just because they want to be with "better" whites. This is a completely stupid and racist view of immigration.
Original post by Computerised
Youre missing the point completely. for a start white people used to do that (forcefully rather than through an immigration office eg Australia).Look at Brazil or Mexico, most people there are white and speak Spanish or Portuguese. now how could that be possible without mass migration? This was because of people with a **** standard of life in Europe (persecution or famine or plague) moved to the Americas for a better life. They didn't go because they loved the Incas or the Aztecs. White people do not beg to go to Nigeria because the white countries (some of them) are doing better economically. You make out as if other races come here just because white people are so amazing and better than everyone else that we all must be around you. This is obvious bs as immigrants usually form their own communities and largely ignore white people and culture anyway. You can't look me in the face and tell me that if this country went third-world somehow (global warming or economic crash) and China, India, and Nigeria became the top superpowers with amazing standards of living, that white English people would just sit tight and starve in the UK rather than run away to the aforementioned countries for a decent standard of living. Your view is basically "lesser" non-whites immigrate just because they want to be with "better" whites. This is a completely stupid and racist view of immigration.


White people did not go to south America because they had a **** standard of live, South America was living in the bronze age before Europeans arrived there so you are completely wrong. It was Europeans who built America, South America and many non white natons to what they are today. So your point is irrevelent.

And yes I believe that non-whites will move wherever whites are. And it is not just for a better standard of living, it is also for our culture, and the way we are. Non-whites are desperate to live with whites, no matter where whites are, no matter what white country.

And no I do not accept that whites would move to non white countries for a better standard of living, I do not see poorer Eastern Europeans migrating en masse to japan, Singapore hong kong etc. I do not see Ukranians begging for Asylum in Taiwan and so on and on.
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Original post by Sharpshooter
Do you think the day when Britain has a mixed race majority of (over 50% of it's citizens) will be one of the greatest days in British history?? Would you like to see that?? If I am being honest I would.

I think the fact that there are so many mixed race relationships indicates where the planet, and more importantly Britain, is heading. I even think we could even have it this century.

I would look foward to the day when Britain becomes likes that, it would almost be like a Moon landing/Berlin wall moment.


Not really, 100% mixed race means that diversity goes out the window and frankly, that would be boring.
Original post by Flying Flowers
And no I do not accept that whites would move to non white countries for a better standard of living, I do not see poorer Eastern Europeans migrating en masse to japan, Singapore hong kong etc. I do not see Ukranians begging for Asylum in Taiwan and so on and on.


Why would they when western europe is on their doorstep and doesn't require any sort of immigration procedure? (EU)
Original post by MandarinStudent
Why would they when western europe is on their doorstep and doesn't require any sort of immigration procedure? (EU)


Is the Ukraine in the EU ? What about croatia, Balerus, Albanian, Serbia, Kosovo, Russia etc etc. They cannot just migrate to western Europe.

I do not see these people piling into non white countries like Japan, Hong kong etc. for a better standard of living. And the fact that the EU is on their doorstep is of no relevence, that does not make have any bearing on them being able to migrate to the EU
Oh hurrah. The abolition of all culture. Let's just all listen to pop music and indulge in commercialism instead.
Original post by Flying Flowers
Is the Ukraine in the EU ? What about croatia, Balerus, Albanian, Serbia, Kosovo, Russia etc etc. They cannot just migrate to western Europe.

I do not see these people piling into non white countries like Japan, Hong kong etc. for a better standard of living. And the fact that the EU is on their doorstep is of no relevence, that does not make have any bearing on them being able to migrate to the EU


Where is easier to get to, Japan or an EU country? From a purely practicle point of view the EU is the obvious choice of migration.

Most of the rish an ecnonomically prosperous Asian nations are extremly difficult to get to.
Original post by MandarinStudent
Where is easier to get to, Japan or an EU country? From a purely practicle point of view the EU is the obvious choice of migration.

Most of the rish an ecnonomically prosperous Asian nations are extremly difficult to get to.


Depends on the EU country, and Japan is not the only non-white country with a standard of living higher than many non-eu eastern European countries.
Original post by Flying Flowers
Depends on the EU country, and Japan is not the only non-white country with a standard of living higher than many non-eu eastern European countries.


Unless you live in a far flung area of Russia gaining access to any of the well of Asian countries is far far far harder than it is to any EU country. In fact I'd be pleased if you could list this non-white propsering countries that would be in any way more attractive (other than being white) and easier to get to than an EU country to Eastern Europeans.
Original post by MandarinStudent
Unless you live in a far flung area of Russia gaining access to any of the well of Asian countries is far far far harder than it is to any EU country. In fact I'd be pleased if you could list this non-white propsering countries that would be in any way more attractive (other than being white) and easier to get to than an EU country to Eastern Europeans.


Absolute nonsense, have you never heard of airplanes ? It is not easier, EU countries have immigraiton rules, and everyone has to follow them, there are no special rules for non eu eastern euopeans.

Japan,

Hong kong,

Taiwan,

Singapore
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Original post by imperial maniac
Not really, 100% mixed race means that diversity goes out the window and frankly, that would be boring.


To be honest though, you can't count "mixed-race" as a race of its own. There are countless combinations which would create people of "mixed-race" who look completely different.
A half-chinese half-african will look very different to a half-white half-arab, but they are both considered mixed-race. I don't agree diversity would necessarily go out the window.
Original post by Once Great
Definiton of diversity: Less white people.

To hell with diversity, this forum is delusional to think that you can just "change" nationality, Amir Khans British passport doesnt make him British, he is Pakistani.

Nationality is by blood, not location.


Why does diversity mean 'less white people'? Diversity in this sense means differences in the human race. Diversity is a very good thing and can only exist if there are a wide variety of colours and cultures.

The world would be a very boring place if we were all the same colour and shared the same culture.

Amir Khan is British, you cannot argue that his Pakistani origins automatically mean he is Pakistani, that would be ridiculous. I am white and have lived in Britain all my life and all my known family members have too, but I am sure that way back along the family line one of my ancestors was probably a scandinavian setter i.e a Viking. This doesn't automatically make me Scandinavian does it? The only difference between that and Amir Khan is that his Pakistani relatives are not long lost ancestors.
Original post by Flying Flowers
Absolute nonsense, have you never heard of airplanes ? It is not easier, EU countries have immigraiton rules, and everyone has to follow them, there are no special rules for non eu eastern euopeans.

Japan,

Hong kong,

Taiwan,

Singapore


The types of immigrants (i.e. non-skilled primerily cheap labour) you are talking about don't have the funds nor know how to afford to navigate the complicated immigration system that would be needed in order to get into the places you mention, and seeing as they would have to go via a border security at an airport its frankly obvious as to why this type of immigration is non existent.

They can simply hop over an undguarded land border/short water border (i.e. channel) to get into the EU, especially as EU immigration laws regarding persecution and other factors are far more leniant than the territories you mentioned.

In regards to skilled work, well its again fairly obvious as to why they come to 'white' countries, that being the language. Most people's second langugae is going to be English as opposed to Japanese or Mandarin that would be needed to function in any profesional sense in either Taiwan or Japan.
Original post by MandarinStudent
The types of immigrants (i.e. non-skilled primerily cheap labour) you are talking about don't have the funds nor know how to afford to navigate the complicated immigration system that would be needed in order to get into the places you mention, and seeing as they would have to go via a border security at an airport its frankly obvious as to why this type of immigration is non existent.

They can simply hop over an undguarded land border/short water border (i.e. channel) to get into the EU, especially as EU immigration laws regarding persecution and other factors are far more leniant than the territories you mentioned.

In regards to skilled work, well its again fairly obvious as to why they come to 'white' countries, that being the language. Most people's second langugae is going to be English as opposed to Japanese or Mandarin that would be needed to function in any profesional sense in either Taiwan or Japan.


Absolute rubbish, complete and utter tosh. And for the record third world immigrants are found in huge numbers in all white countries regardless of language.

Your drivel is simply preposterous.
I really don't believe that should be either a good or a bad thing.
Doubt that's going to happen seeing that Britain is 90% white.
Original post by deathbeforeimmortality
Doubt that's going to happen seeing that Britain is 90% white.


That's only from the 2001 census, which was obviously 10 years ago. There has been a lot more immigration since then and there is much more diversity.
The US has a large majority of white people (80%) too. But we all know this is slowly changing in both places.
Original post by TheJ0ker
Why does diversity mean 'less white people'? Diversity in this sense means differences in the human race. Diversity is a very good thing and can only exist if there are a wide variety of colours and cultures.

The world would be a very boring place if we were all the same colour and shared the same culture.

Amir Khan is British, you cannot argue that his Pakistani origins automatically mean he is Pakistani, that would be ridiculous. I am white and have lived in Britain all my life and all my known family members have too, but I am sure that way back along the family line one of my ancestors was probably a scandinavian setter i.e a Viking. This doesn't automatically make me Scandinavian does it? The only difference between that and Amir Khan is that his Pakistani relatives are not long lost ancestors.



I am white British, if I move to saudi arabia, and my grandchildren are born in saudi arabia, does that make them saudi arabian?

NO! Not on my watch.

Amir Khan is not British, he is Pakistani.
Original post by Flying Flowers
Absolute rubbish, complete and utter tosh. And for the record third world immigrants are found in huge numbers in all white countries regardless of language.

Your drivel is simply preposterous.


Not rubbish at all. Even if I wanted to leave the country I wouldn't choose anywhere in asia due to distance alone. Not to mention their immigration laws are extremly xenophobic.

Unless you have anything else to add other than unfounded statements that essentially equate to "U R RONG WA WA WA" stop quoting me.

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