Medicine 2012...(hopeful entrants) !!

Original post by loz876

well my teacher said that "there'd be no harm in predicting an A". I also did really bad in my ISA back in September last year (D), and I'm redoing it soon and I should easily get an A, bringing my grade up to a B overall. I'm anxious to get my script back though because I used pencil to draw mechanisms in chem2 and my chem teachers, head of sixth form and tutor have all said that it might not have scanned.

Whaaat? Slightly unfair! Depends how well you know your teachers, if you know them well a bit of persuasion goes a long way :tongue:

I got an A in coursework and an A in module 2. I'm on really good terms with my teachers. Our school had a policy there is no room for negotiations.

They should really bring in a much better system instead of this prediction stuff. :rolleyes:

As some schools are really lenient whilst others aren't.

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Normandy114

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Original post by Besakt

Would they not wonder, why you got predicted 2 grades up though?
That's well unfair I was 2 UMS marks off an A in chemistry and got predicted a B. :eek:

I was 21 UMS above the A boundary, and still had to coerce my chemistry teacher to change it from a B to an A :rolleyes:

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Original post by Normandy114

I was 21 UMS above the A boundary, and still had to coerce my chemistry teacher to change it from a B to an A :rolleyes:

Why did you get predicted a grade below? What were your module marks like?

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Original post by Besakt

I got an A in coursework and an A in module 2. I'm on really good terms with my teachers. Our school had a policy there is no room for negotiations.

They should really bring in a much better system instead of this prediction stuff. :rolleyes:

As some schools are really lenient whilst others aren't.

really? I guess the system doesn't work that well because some teachers can be persuaded and some can't. But my view was that if I got predicted an A and didn't achieve it, that'd be my fault, whereas if I didn't get the prediction but did achieve it in the end, I wouldn't have been able to get an offer and would have been really annoyed. I think also it was to do with the whole class not doing great - if everyone else got A's, and I got a C, they would have probably reconsidered.

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Normandy114

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Original post by Besakt

Why did you get predicted a grade below? What were your module marks like?

Because I didn't work at GCSE and got a B, and they use GCSE results to predict scores.
I had 120/120, 100/120 and 41/60 (I'm awful at coursework :tongue:

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Original post by loz876

really? I guess the system doesn't work that well because some teachers can be persuaded and some can't. But my view was that if I got predicted an A and didn't achieve it, that'd be my fault, whereas if I didn't get the prediction but did achieve it in the end, I wouldn't have been able to get an offer and would have been really annoyed. I think also it was to do with the whole class not doing great - if everyone else got A's, and I got a C, they would have probably reconsidered.

No, I think students should not be allowed to persuade teachers. Just because your class underperformed, is not a sufficient reason. At the end of the day it doesn't matter if you have a terrible teacher because if you really want it then you will learn it and find websites and other sources to gain a better understanding of what you don't understand.

Original post by Normandy114

Because I didn't work at GCSE and got a B, and they use GCSE results to predict scores.
I had 120/120, 100/120 and 41/60 (I'm awful at coursework :tongue:

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Oh, that is still pretty unfair if you ask me, how can you predict a grade lower that's is basically saying I know you've done well this year but I expect you to mess up next year so I will predict you a grade lower.

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Becca-Sarah

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Original post by Besakt

Oh, that is still pretty unfair if you ask me, how can you predict a grade lower that's is basically saying I know you've done well this year but I expect you to mess up next year so I will predict you a grade lower.

With the jump from AS to A2 I think it's entirely plausible that you may not maintain your grade :dontknow:

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helmasry

Original post by Penguinsaysquack

Policy has changed for undergrads so they don't care quite so much!

okay...well i called them and they said they rank people by UKCAT scores if you meet the min academic requirements...

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Original post by Besakt

No, I think students should not be allowed to persuade teachers. Just because your class underperformed, is not a sufficient reason. At the end of the day it doesn't matter if you have a terrible teacher because if you really want it then you will learn it and find websites and other sources to gain a better understanding of what you don't understand.

I'm not saying I have bad teachers - in fact they are great, and I don't blame them for my grade. But your view of saying "if you really want it you will learn it" can work both ways - I really want and need an A therefore I am confident enough to say I will get one, and if I need to explain this to my teachers to be predicted an A, then I will, and I did. There are 3 medics in our class and all three of us got C's instead of A's, but that doesn't mean we can't get an A at A2.

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Normandy114

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Original post by helmasry

okay...well i called them and they said they rank people by UKCAT scores if you meet the min academic requirements...

Not for 2012 entry, at least 7 or 8 of us have emailed or called them, and we have all been told that now all you need is a score of 600 average, then they rank people by UCAS tariff scores, not UKCAT.

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username356927

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Original post by loz876

I'm not saying I have bad teachers - in fact they are great, and I don't blame them for my grade. But your view of saying "if you really want it you will learn it" can work both ways - I really want and need an A therefore I am confident enough to say I will get one, and if I need to explain this to my teachers to be predicted an A, then I will, and I did. There are 3 medics in our class and all three of us got C's instead of A's, but that doesn't mean we can't get an A at A2.

But surely getting As rather than Cs would make it easier for your teachers to be convinced....

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Hanz_a93

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Are we put at a disadvantage if we send off our ucas late for courses like kings emdp? like just before the deadline (next week) do our applications get discarded or something?

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Original post by TooSexyForMyStethoscope

But surely getting As rather than Cs would make it easier for your teachers to be convinced....

Well yes, but none of us got A's... I don't see your point :confused:

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username356927

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Original post by loz876

Well yes, but none of us got A's... I don't see your point :confused:

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Well, you said before that teachers shouldn't predict low grades just because you haven't achieved high ones in the past...if you haven't been getting As, how can you expect people to predict you them?

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Original post by Becca-Sarah

With the jump from AS to A2 I think it's entirely plausible that you may not maintain your grade :dontknow:

But isn't the jump from GCSE to AS similar and if you can get a B in GCSE then go on to get an A at AS wouldn't that show that you are capable?

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Original post by TooSexyForMyStethoscope

Well, you said before that teachers shouldn't predict low grades just because you haven't achieved high ones in the past...if you haven't been getting As, how can you expect people to predict you them?

I guess it depends on how it works in different schools, as I said my teacher's view was that there wasn't any harm in predicting me higher than my AS grade because it gives me motivation. We also had our reference forms filled out in July before results day, where my teachers predicted me an A already, afterwards it was a matter of asking them not to change it. If they teachers know the class well enough to predict them higher than they achieved, then I don't see the problem.

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