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Original post by ReBee
Are you arguing that mathematics is not a human fabrication or construct, which thus makes it fictitious? Formal sciences investigate an artificial subject, such as a programming language, or mathematical principles and axioms. Natural sciences investigate...the world.
Mathematics is thus not necessary, albeit it does help when applied, to investigate the world. If Mathematics weren't developed, another system would've been developed for the very same function. It's a whole philosophical school of thought - Mathematical Fictionalism!
Mathematics is thus not necessary, albeit it does help when applied, to investigate the world. If Mathematics weren't developed, another system would've been developed for the very same function. It's a whole philosophical school of thought - Mathematical Fictionalism!
But aren't the bases of natural sciences (e.g. such as empiricism) also human constructs? Aren't you presupposing the validity of these methods?
Original post by ReBee
Are you arguing that mathematics is not a human fabrication or construct, which thus makes it fictitious? Formal sciences investigate an artificial subject, such as a programming language, or mathematical principles and axioms. Natural sciences investigate...the world.
Mathematics is thus not necessary, albeit it does help when applied, to investigate the world. If Mathematics weren't developed, another system would've been developed for the very same function. It's a whole philosophical school of thought - Mathematical Fictionalism!
Mathematics is thus not necessary, albeit it does help when applied, to investigate the world. If Mathematics weren't developed, another system would've been developed for the very same function. It's a whole philosophical school of thought - Mathematical Fictionalism!
Yes.
Seriously?
Exactly. Only not another. If Mathematics weren't developed, some Friggenatics would've been developed...which would be Mathematics hiding behind the name "Friggenatics". Maths is natural, it already exists, we do not invent maths
Original post by medbh4805
Yep...and Further Maths as level 
What have you been up to?
What have you been up to?
SNAPSIES
Today? well all I did was go 
frantic about my stocks because I forgot it was the first day of the competition. And my team is doing very well (granted we're in the minus but meh) and erm erm erm yeah that's basically it...Original post by fluteflute
It's okay Chiara's not around (quick, while she's not looking...)
NEVER
humanities students own this thread
Original post by fluteflute
Brand New Eyes
Yes, thats it. Say my name!
:fuhrer:
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Original post by desy.kris
so why did you apply for CS&Phil? :/
I suck at TOK but I want an A........
I suck at TOK but I want an A........
(same as CS in that respect)Original post by Devil_in_disguise
Yes.
Seriously?
Exactly. Only not another. If Mathematics weren't developed, some Friggenatics would've been developed...which would be Mathematics hiding behind the name "Friggenatics". Maths is natural, it already exists, we do not invent maths
Seriously?
Exactly. Only not another. If Mathematics weren't developed, some Friggenatics would've been developed...which would be Mathematics hiding behind the name "Friggenatics". Maths is natural, it already exists, we do not invent maths
Does maths really have an independent existence outside of our thoughts though? Especially more abstract concepts like imaginary numbers.....
Original post by medbh4805
NEVER
humanities students own this thread
humanities students own this thread
There are SO many PPE students on the TSA thread... but they totally boid this one
I have no-one to talk to about Hayek and new trade theory 
Original post by fluteflute
Well said! Time for the mathematicians and computer scientists to take over this thread! 
Down with numbers! Up with chloroplasts!
Original post by Brand New Eyes
SNAPSIES
Today? well all I did was go frantic about my stocks because I forgot it was the first day of the competition. And my team is doing very well (granted we're in the minus but meh) and erm erm erm yeah that's basically it...
Today? well all I did was go frantic about my stocks because I forgot it was the first day of the competition. And my team is doing very well (granted we're in the minus but meh) and erm erm erm yeah that's basically it...I've been translating Sophocles, Aeschylus and Plato
I LOVE GREEK
Original post by Brand New Eyes
Hahahaha... oh Greg. Do you always get like this when girls start talking to you?
I waste every day on this thread...
2^2 you
I waste every day on this thread... 2^2 youNo... it's only you
Original post by Brand New Eyes
There are SO many PPE students on the TSA thread... but they totally boid this one I have no-one to talk to about Hayek and new trade theory
I have no-one to talk to about Hayek and new trade theory Hayek....reminds me I need to actually get round to reading the Road to Serfdom
Original post by Brand New Eyes
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Original post by fluteflute
It would be cool if BNE were your real initials...
Imagine you started going with someone in this thread and called out their TSR username in bed.....
Original post by ReBee
Down with numbers! Up with chloroplasts!
Tbh we have all the weapons: chemical, nuclear and of course cyber attacks.
(edited 12 years ago)
Original post by medbh4805
Does maths really have an independent existence outside of our thoughts though? Especially more abstract concepts like imaginary numbers.....
lol, it is arguable that anything exists outside of our thoughts, isn't it? What I'm trying to say is that sin^2x+cos^2x is 1 whether we know it or not, we do not invent the identity.
Original post by medbh4805
Imagine you started going with someone in this thread and called out their TSR username in bed.....
Original post by fluteflute
It would be cool if BNE were your real initials...
It would wouldn't it! Sadly none of those letters are my initials Original post by medbh4805
Hayek....reminds me I need to actually get round to reading the Road to Serfdom
Ooh how exciting! Why ya doing that? YOU DO ECON AND YOU NO TELL ME???!!!
p.s. Plato's Republic?
he sucks! joke I don't really know that much about himI love GREEK TOO
greek yoghurt that is
Original post by fluteflute
2^2?
No... it's only you
No... it's only you
2 to the power of 2 = 4
No. Heart. for. you. Duh
and aww ^^ I have that effect on
boys
How was flute with the girls
(edited 12 years ago)
Original post by Devil_in_disguise
lol, it is arguable that anything exists outside of our thoughts, isn't it?
Well, you could make a distinction between concrete things (like the desk I'm sitting at) and abstracts (thoughts, ideas). Don't get all Cartesian on me
What I'm trying to say is that sin^2x+cos^2x is 1 whether we know it or not, we do not invent the identity.
Well what are cos and sin anyway - ratios, no? Cos and sin are only appellations given to them by humans.....
Original post by medbh4805
NEVER
humanities students own this thread
humanities students own this thread
humanities students' existence with time can be modelled with a quadratic function and now its derivative is already negative!! time for the sciency students' existence graph with time to have a positive derivative!!!
Original post by fluteflute
Because I think Philosophy is very interesting. And it's taught from scratch (same as CS in that respect)
(same as CS in that respect)hope you'll enjoy it!
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