OU Maths modules / Input appreciated

Do you think it is possible to do MS221 and MST209 at the same time, if I complete the bridging course. Starting this in Oct 2012.

I don't see any problems with this. If you can deal with all the MST209 bridging material, then much of MS221 will be a recap.

In MS221 Block C is calc, which you'll have done. A quarter of block D is complex numbers, and the conics and functions for geometry that you'll already know cover two thirds of block A. Block B deals with matrices which pops up early in MST209, so you might even cover that early too.

I don't see any problems with this. If you can deal with all the MST209 bridging material, then much of MS221 will be a recap.

In MS221 Block C is calc, which you'll have done. A quarter of block D is complex numbers, and the conics and functions for geometry that you'll already know cover two thirds of block A. Block B deals with matrices which pops up early in MST209, so you might even cover that early too.

Moggs! How did you find MST209? I've just checked out M208 material (was wanting to do that instead) and it looked horrific! Pure Maths, as much as I love it, don't think I'd be able to cope with that + MS221 + MST121 for 4-5 months.

MST209 looks like a handful but more rewarding as it puts things into real life contexts, am I right? MS221 and MST121 are a little boring at times cos they don't tell you how it relates to real life!!

Anyways off to OU library some point next week to check out the books and see what I would be in for.

Hey matey! Glad to hear it's going well.

I haven't seen M208 yet, so I can't really compare it to MST209. I haven't officially started MST209, but I've been studying for it for a few months now. I'll see you in January/February if you're on the same presentation

P.S. Sent you an e-mail

Wowza! Muchos appreciated. I haven't been on here cos I was procrastinating too much on it! :P

MST209 looks hard. I think there's 28 sections, and only 22 or so in M208 so I'll probably just do M208 this Jan and then MST209 Oct 2013 :l the plan.. (doing NatSci and Maths sort of simultaneously linking 120 of the NatSci creds to the Maths degree ;D)...

Just 'reading your email' and MST209 looks pretty hardcore to be doing at the same time as MS221 and MST121..

I'll send you an email come Jan once i've started M208 cos it's looking that way.

NOTE: the above may not make sense cos i was on the phone as i wrote it, lol.

No worries

We have similar evil plans by the looks of it. I went for MST209 first along with the L1 and two L3 maths modules which go towards engineering. I'll pick up the pure maths while still studying engineering, transfer the maths credits and in theory should end up with both undergrads

I'd really appreciate any MS208 info once you get started, thanks for that. I'll have to pre-study that as well I reckon.

Are you doing any maths L3's? I might see you on Fluid Mechanics or Waveforms and Diffusion in '12/'13 if so.

No worries

We have similar evil plans by the looks of it. I went for MST209 first along with the L1 and two L3 maths modules which go towards engineering. I'll pick up the pure maths while still studying engineering, transfer the maths credits and in theory should end up with both undergrads

I'd really appreciate any MS208 info once you get started, thanks for that. I'll have to pre-study that as well I reckon.

Are you doing any maths L3's? I might see you on Fluid Mechanics or Waveforms and Diffusion in '12/'13 if so.

Whats your plan of action that you've got left to do?

Just another half of engineering to finish, followed by the pure maths side. I'll have to do them together though and link as it goes along, 'cause there's no way I'm paying 5k per year

MST209, T356 in January followed by MST326, T357 and MS221 (backwards I know =P). That leaves me with the just the project course for engineering, and M208 and three L3's for the maths.

Ohhh not long to go then!..

I'm concerned about this fees business.. I'm going to the regional HQ next week to talk about it, although I dont know how they will react to my question (to save me money)..

I'm aware that to stay on the old fees you need to study 60 credits a year towards your qualification.

Hold up a mo.. just watched the OU fees video thing and have a question.. is there a minimum number of credits you must study towards your qualification each year? or could I get away with studying a short module in a year to keep me on the old fees (whilst, say.. i do 90 creds of physics in a year)

Really?

I thought you just had to study a minimum of one module per year towards each qualification. I wasn't aware it was 60.

Have you added both qualifications to your studenthome? I'm not sure how the changes are going to work, so added both maths and eng. and I'm linking them as they go along.



I thought this was the case. I'll give them a call tomorrow to confirm I think, because if it doesn't include 30 pointers, I gots trouble! I'll check to see what they say about short courses & residentials too and post back. We'll see about plans when we know for sure. I expect you'll still be able to keep to the old fees.

Oooh good luck! I'm studying S104 (and S279) at the moment and it's getting really interesting - the first book isn't that great content-wise but they're definitely starting to pick up, there is a little bit of maths in the first couple of books so the maths modules will come in really handy for that, I definitely struggled a bit because I haven't done any maths in 3+ years

Whats S279? I hated S104.. It was just never ending, and I hate geology and stuff .. In the end I didn't to my last 2 TMA's cos I had enough to pass! :P

Oh wow - I didn't even realise you could do that! Yeah the first two were really geology based and I know exactly what you mean :P S279 is called "Our dynamic planet." It does have a bit of geology based things in it but it also focuses on how life formed and there a lot of evolutionary things to study which is what I find really interesting. I was going to do "Darwin and Evolution" and "Frozen Planet" but I couldn't get funding for them because they were only 10/15 credit modules

Ah yea I still had to do the end of module assignment tho! Wish I'd finished it properly like but never mind, at least level 1 modules don't count towards degree classification! :P level 2 sorts the men from the boys..

Doing a level 1 and a level 2 30 credit maths module at the mo and starting my first 60 credit level 2 maths module (M208 pure mathematics) in Feb which is scaring me a lil!

Can you tell me, if say I've for 310 credit towards my BSc Nat Sci.. (and need 50 level 1), can I count a 60 credit level 2 module towards this? I'm sure I can.. If that's the case then I'm safe in that I can do 240 credits of a maths BSc on the old fees.. but I'll then have to do a year of level 3 physics to finish off the Nat Sci.. which means the remaining 60 level 1 creds and 60 level 3 creds will be on the new fees (£5k :'( ).. but hey can't win em all, don't mind paying if I can't avoid it..

As long as you've completed your NatSci compulsories and the 60 credit L2 falls within the modules that can be counted towards the NatSci degree, you can indeed apply it.

You don't have to stick with even L1 L2 and L3 if you don't want to. The remaining points at any level can be fulfilled by completing either that level, or levels above for undergrad stuff. As it's L1 you're looking at, you have free pick from any NatSci applicable L1, L2 or L3's you fancy