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Diagnostic or Therapeutic radiography?

Hi There :smile:
I've always wanted to work in X-ray, and in the medical field along with technology, so I realized that Radiography was cool - but their are 2 types!

I thought Therapeutic would be good, looking at my patients files, analyzing, and meeting them, and doing the radiotherapy.

But then there is also Diagnostic where you can work in so many different areas like MRI,ultrasound. I have no clue!

I would appreciate good advice.
Thankyou! :smile:

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Original post by Botakgi
Hi There :smile:
I've always wanted to work in X-ray, and in the medical field along with technology, so I realized that Radiography was cool - but their are 2 types!

I thought Therapeutic would be good, looking at my patients files, analyzing, and meeting them, and doing the radiotherapy.

But then there is also Diagnostic where you can work in so many different areas like MRI,ultrasound. I have no clue!

I would appreciate good advice.
Thankyou! :smile:


If you're not sure it would be a good idea if you could do a day's work experience in an x-ray department and a day working with radiotherapists so you could see for yourself which might suit you best. Also read up as much as you can about both careers. When I became interested in radiography at first I thought I'd prefer radiotherapy but then when I started reading into diagnostic I thought that I would probably be better suited to that.

You may have looked already but I found the radiography careers website really helpful as well as using the search facilty on here to look up old posts about radiography courses etc.

I'm in my first year of diagnostic and have literally just gone out on placement and I'm really enjoying it so if you have any questions feel free to to ask
I was sort of in a similar position and I did what dreaminchicken suggested and did a days work experience in both departments. They are two very different careers with some, but not many, overlapping skills.

Therapeutic is generally fixed hours (e.g. 9-5) and they always work in teams of at least two. Diagnostic can work shift patterns or overtime and you may work alone, in teams or with other medical professionals (eg. in theatre). Therapeutic get to see the same patient many times, sometimes they will get better but a lot of the time they are receiving palliative care. They also tend to spend longer with their patients so an ability to engage in small talk is helpful. Diagnostic tend to see a lot of different patients for a shorter period, but both deal with very sick people all the time. Therapeutic jobs tend to be clustered in large hospitals around the country whereas almost every hospital employs some diagnostic radiographers. Diagnostic radiographers outnumber therapeutic by about 10:1. Both routes allow for specialising, although there seem to be more avenues available to the diagnostic radiographer. At one hospital I was at, the therapeutic radiographers weren't allowed to do treatment planning, for instance whereas the diagnostic radiographers could train into ultrasound, CT, MRI, nuclear medicine or reporting.

Personally, I really enjoyed the imaging (CT) side of therapeutic and almost everything in diagnostic. Therapeutic seemed a bit samey to me but diagnostic radiography looked like it had more variety. They get to rotate through plain X-ray, CT, A&E, theatre and fluroscopy. I am now holding offers to study Diagnostic Imaging in September :smile:
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Original post by dreaminchicken

Original post by dreaminchicken
If you're not sure it would be a good idea if you could do a day's work experience in an x-ray department and a day working with radiotherapists so you could see for yourself which might suit you best. Also read up as much as you can about both careers. When I became interested in radiography at first I thought I'd prefer radiotherapy but then when I started reading into diagnostic I thought that I would probably be better suited to that.

You may have looked already but I found the radiography careers website really helpful as well as using the search facilty on here to look up old posts about radiography courses etc.

I'm in my first year of diagnostic and have literally just gone out on placement and I'm really enjoying it so if you have any questions feel free to to ask


Hi thanks for the advice. I just wanted to ask since you have chosen Diagnostic, do you think it's rewarding and do you think you have a lot of responsibility?

Thanks!
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Original post by maturestudy

Original post by maturestudy
I was sort of in a similar position and I did what dreaminchicken suggested and did a days work experience in both departments. They are two very different careers with some, but not many, overlapping skills.

Therapeutic is generally fixed hours (e.g. 9-5) and they always work in teams of at least two. Diagnostic can work shift patterns or overtime and you may work alone, in teams or with other medical professionals (eg. in theatre). Therapeutic get to see the same patient many times, sometimes they will get better but a lot of the time they are receiving palliative care. They also tend to spend longer with their patients so an ability to engage in small talk is helpful. Diagnostic tend to see a lot of different patients for a shorter period, but both deal with very sick people all the time. Therapeutic jobs tend to be clustered in large hospitals around the country whereas almost every hospital employs some diagnostic radiographers. Diagnostic radiographers outnumber therapeutic by about 10:1. Both routes allow for specialising, although there seem to be more avenues available to the diagnostic radiographer. At one hospital I was at, the therapeutic radiographers weren't allowed to do treatment planning, for instance whereas the diagnostic radiographers could train into ultrasound, CT, MRI, nuclear medicine or reporting.

Personally, I really enjoyed the imaging (CT) side of therapeutic and almost everything in diagnostic. Therapeutic seemed a bit samey to me but diagnostic radiography looked like it had more variety. They get to rotate through plain X-ray, CT, A&E, theatre and fluroscopy. I am now holding offers to study Diagnostic Imaging in September :smile:


thanks for the info :smile: Is the salary pay the same?
Thanks :smile:
Original post by Botakgi
thanks for the info :smile: Is the salary pay the same?
Thanks :smile:


You can find out more about pay and benefits via NHS website (http://www.nhscareers.nhs.uk/details/Default.aspx?Id=190)
Original post by Botakgi
Hi thanks for the advice. I just wanted to ask since you have chosen Diagnostic, do you think it's rewarding and do you think you have a lot of responsibility?

Thanks!


Hiya, yes I enjoy it and think it will prove to be a rewarding career in my opinion. At the moment obviously we don't really have any responsibility because we are only students but yes I'd say that once you qualify there is a fair amount of responsibility. There is a lot more to it than you would think.
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Original post by dreaminchicken

Original post by dreaminchicken
Hiya, yes I enjoy it and think it will prove to be a rewarding career in my opinion. At the moment obviously we don't really have any responsibility because we are only students but yes I'd say that once you qualify there is a fair amount of responsibility. There is a lot more to it than you would think.


Thanks
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Original post by maturestudy

Original post by maturestudy
You can find out more about pay and benefits via NHS website (http://www.nhscareers.nhs.uk/details/Default.aspx?Id=190)


Thanks for your help :smile:
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They need to change the names really. They are totally different jobs, with the only similarity being the use of ionising radiation, but people who work in them share the same job title and sit under the same umbrella at the HPC.

But yes you need experience in both to make a decision. Neither is quite as simple as you make out in the OP. I'm days away from qualifying as a diagnostic radiographer and I'm very glad I chose it over therapy.
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vb
I am going to study therapeutic radiography next week (i'm going to have my induction)... but i'm a bit confused! I don't know whether i like therapeutic or diagnostic more??

I know that the ratio of diagnostic to therapeutic is 10:1,, so are diagnostic more employable or therapeutic (there would be more diagnostic radiographers around than therapeutic as the ratio suggests) im not entirely sure...

I also love working late shifts which fits into the diagnostic type of side....
Original post by ScrewExams
I am going to study therapeutic radiography next week (i'm going to have my induction)... but i'm a bit confused! I don't know whether i like therapeutic or diagnostic more??

I know that the ratio of diagnostic to therapeutic is 10:1,, so are diagnostic more employable or therapeutic (there would be more diagnostic radiographers around than therapeutic as the ratio suggests) im not entirely sure...

I also love working late shifts which fits into the diagnostic type of side....


Hi there

I am currently a third year therapy student, where will you be studying? As far as employability you do have to take into account that all hospitals have a diagnostic department but not many a radiotherapy and the intake on the courses reflect this which is why there is a much smaller intake in therapy. Please be sure you are certain about which one you want as the degrees are very different. If you have any questions feel free to message me.

Lindsay

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Original post by lindsay2910
Hi there

I am currently a third year therapy student, where will you be studying? As far as employability you do have to take into account that all hospitals have a diagnostic department but not many a radiotherapy and the intake on the courses reflect this which is why there is a much smaller intake in therapy. Please be sure you are certain about which one you want as the degrees are very different. If you have any questions feel free to message me.

Lindsay

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thank you!!! yes i love both diagnostic and therapeutic so i would be really happy to study either one, but since all hospitals have a diagnostic department like you said, then there would probably be more jobs for diagnostic radiographers?

(im going to study at st george's university of london for therapeutic radiography btw))

i also have another question, do some of the skills and work of therapeutic radiographers overlap and link with a diagnostic radiographer (ie they operate some of the similar machinery?) if so, does this mean a therapist radiographer can work in a diagnostic department if they are taught the same skills and requirements the job is asking for?

-thank you ((sorry my qstion is quite long)) thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Original post by ScrewExams
thank you!!! yes i love both diagnostic and therapeutic so i would be really happy to study either one, but since all hospitals have a diagnostic department like you said, then there would probably be more jobs for diagnostic radiographers?

(im going to study at st george's university of london for therapeutic radiography btw))

i also have another question, do some of the skills and work of therapeutic radiographers overlap and link with a diagnostic radiographer (ie they operate some of the similar machinery?) if so, does this mean a therapist radiographer can work in a diagnostic department if they are taught the same skills and requirements the job is asking for?

-thank you ((sorry my qstion is quite long)) thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Hi

In answer to your question as a therapy radiographer we use CT to plan treatment and we take kv images but they are different to diagnostic so I don't think you could work as a diagnostic but don't quite me on that.

Good luck with your course though. I'm at Birmingham City Uni

Lindsay xx

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Hello Linsay, im looking forward to studying therapeutic radiography at BCU , interms of work life balance, which one (therapeutic radiography or diagnostic) is better? .

Which of these pays more?


I still need to make up my mind though.

Thanks
Divine
Original post by Divine T
Hello Linsay, im looking forward to studying therapeutic radiography at BCU , interms of work life balance, which one (therapeutic radiography or diagnostic) is better? .

Which of these pays more?


I still need to make up my mind though.

Thanks
Divine


Hi
In terms of work life balance I would say the only difference would be that in diagnostic you are expected to work any time day and night and weekends, whereas in therapy we work Mon-Fri and some Saturday's but this is starting to change. The money is the same for both disciplines though.

Glad to hear you are looking forward to starting, BCU is a brilliant uni with facilities that are second to none.

Lindsay xx
Thank you Lindsay for the reply. Did you study at BCU?. How is the intake for the therapeutic radiotheraphy like? . What do I do to ensure that I have a place at BCU? .
Is the therapeutic very exhaustive/harder diagnostic?.
Which one has an edge over the other; how do you experience therapeutic radiography?
Thank You so much!

Divine xxx
Thank you Lindsay for the reply.
Which of the two is harder and which is more relaxed (less exhaustive)?- just being curious.
Which one has an edge?
How do you experience therapy so far?
Monday to Friday means you've got more time for yourself.
Original post by Divine T
Thank you Lindsay for the reply.
Which of the two is harder and which is more relaxed (less exhaustive)?- just being curious.
Which one has an edge?
How do you experience therapy so far?
Monday to Friday means you've got more time for yourself.


I would say they are probably as exhaustive as each other. Therapy can be emotional at times.
I love therapy because of the amount of patient contact mixed with the technical stuff. Every day is different. But if you prefer the technical stuff then diagnostic Is probably the best option.
I have children so I do like that it is Monday to Friday plus it gives me chance to do my uni work as this doesn't stop when you are on Placement.

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