Pro-life society...

It's like chopping off a leg, or cutting out a tumour. Sometimes it's objectionable, sometimes it's necessary, but it should always be a choice for the person involved.

If a person told you to do something that only you had any meaningful say in, like ordered you to like a band, or get a tattoo; would you say yes just because they thought it was the thing you should do?

Naturally you're entitled to your opinion, I just think life's more interesting if you challenge your own beliefs.

How can you compare a baby to a tumour?

How can you compare a baby to a tumour?

I'm not saying a baby is a tumour, however a foetus is a parasite. Maybe a desirable one, maybe not, but biologically it is as it exists in a symbiotic relationship beneficial to only one side.

That every woman who is pregnant has an absolute duty to carry the baby to term; aborting is unjustifiable killing.

What about when a woman has been raped? Or when having a child will severely threaten the health of the mother?

The unborn child is not any less valuable due to their father being a rapist.
Severe threat to health: depends if likely to be fatal , if so then mother's life comes above foetus' life.

If you're pro life, like, really pro life, then go and adopt a child, foster a kid, help out at your local homeless shelter. Abortion shouldn't have to happen, no, but in some circumstances it is unfortunately, in the best interests for everyone.

Im sorry but what if you were brain-dead, to say, a vegetable with no hope of you ever opening your eyes again. Sure some basic motor functions would still be there but for most things, such as breathing, you would need mechanical help. Your still a 'bundle of cells', just not a self-reliant bundle. And I believe that Idea os 'self-reliance' can cme into play when thinking about a foetus, whilst I dangerously toe the line of eugenics with this, surely if a foetus is determined to, say, be born without motor function or any higher brain fuction, surely it is better for the mother to abort this child and try for another, one that can actually be self-reliant?

That's an argumet I've not heard before. Where would you draw the line?

Okay then. I simply believe that foetuses are alive and are 'humans'. Therefore, it naturally follows that it is wrong to abort foetuses, even if the mother was raped or had a malfuntioning condom or whatever. I do however believe that if the foetus is unlikely to survive and the mother's life would be put in danger by going ahead with the birth (the doctor would have to scrutinise the probabilities very carefully to decide the best course of action) then abortion woud be acceptable (perhaps compulsory). I am against making abortion illegal as that would not stop it from happening (same with drugs, prostitution etc.), but believe in increasing public awareness about just how 'alive' foetuses are and more sex education at a much younger age than it is provided currently.

Thank you, I suppose personally I would draw the line at someone is is, from birth, has no autonomous control over themseleves, no 'self' as it were. I wouldnt abort a child of mine if it had Down syndrome's or autism as these people can still have fulfiling lives (as I wouldnt chance it simply because the doctor says it might be 'severe'). To this end, any person who, say, will never develop, cognitivly wise. Again, im toeing the line of eugenics saying this but its just my peronal belief. Put yourself in the shoes of a 16 year old teenage mother, whose just had a baby, who is mentally 'handicapped' and will always have the mind of a 6 month old, is it fair for her to be straddled with a fully grown physical adult who will never be able to look after themselves?

So you believe it is right to force a woman who had been raped to relive the terror of her attack every time she looks at her child, and possibly end up hating them because of it?

Just challenging your stance - I agree that this is a subject that no one every changes their mind about, and I like that you respect other opinions.

One thing that I do not understand with the whole abortion issue is that there seems that there needs to be a morally justified / 'suitable' reason to have an abortion.
eg. you cannot abort based on gender

If people believe that a fertilised egg/fetus is just a bunch of cells that are of no significance then surely you should be able to have an abortion for any, whatever whimsical, reason you like.

Imo the abortion limit being at 24 weeks is evidence that the government does not hold the life of a fetus that important, therefore I think it's contradictory when there was outrage that fetuses were being illegally aborted because of gender. My question is, if it's just a bunch of unimportant cells, why does it matter?

I am pro-abortion.

I actually used to be pro-life. I was very strict on my views in that a baby should have the right to life. Then when I started having sex, I realised that if I was in the situation where I got pregnant, I would have an abortion as soon as possible. I've never had to make such a decision but I know that is what I would do. My friend is currently pregnant and due to being a Christian she is having her baby at just 17. She had dreams of being an architect and now her life is on hold for eighteen years because of one mistake. Her boyfriend used to hit her and now she feels she is stuck with him and no matter what I say she is staying with him and keeping the baby.

I find it astonishing that men even hold such strong opinions about abortion. Unless you're the father involved, I personally believe you have no right to judge a woman either way, whether she keeps it or whether she aborts it. It's like we women judging men because of something they do with their penises. We will never, ever experience that so who are we to judge? It's plain stupid. You can quite easily say you're against abortion because it will never directly affect you. You will never get pregnant. I would much rather listen to a pro-life female.

Finally, to the comments about the rape of a woman and how that isn't the baby's fault, again if you haven't been raped I think you have no right to underestimate the trauma they go through. That's all I'll say on that matter.

Unless doctors can categorically prove foetuses can feel pain before 24 weeks, I believe that is where the limit should stay unless further medical issues develop.

I am pro-abortion.
My friend is currently pregnant and due to being a Christian she is having her baby at just 17. She had dreams of being an architect and now her life is on hold for eighteen years because of one mistake. Her boyfriend used to hit her and now she feels she is stuck with him and no matter what I say she is staying with him and keeping the baby.